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To: pcottraux
And they do this because they see it in animated movies when they're kids?

Nothing like taking a point out of context, eh?

You seem to believe that common sense is inate and it's not. Hence my point about drivers and cellphones. People believe accidents happen to idiots, not them, "I can drive and talk".This spans the behaviour spectrum. "Drugs won't hurt ME, cigarettes won't hurt ME, speeding won't hurt ME". Then they find that they aren't "bullet proof".

It is kind of an inherent left-wing idea that people's stupid mistakes, violent behavior, etc. is not caused by the individual, but by "society." In other words, blaming everything else for a person's mistake...except for the person themselves. In college they call it "sociology."

I believe in personal responsibility but would you allow pedophiles to receive Namblas newsletter while in jail. Or a rapist to receive "Playboy"? If not, why? Again, kids emulate what they see. Petra did a song years ago called "Computer Brains". Bet you can't guess what the premise is. A line in the song says, "Garbage in, garbage out".

160 posted on 07/07/2006 4:52:52 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: DJ MacWoW
Nothing like taking a point out of context, eh?

Your point seems to be that people are so stupid they can't think for themselves, and that they need some sort of nanny force (people like you who are smarter than everyone else) to protect them from themselves.

People believe accidents happen to idiots, not them, "I can drive and talk".This spans the behaviour spectrum. "Drugs won't hurt ME, cigarettes won't hurt ME, speeding won't hurt ME". Then they find that they aren't "bullet proof".

It's not taking it out of context. You're saying people do stupid things because they think it's cool to do stupid things because they see it in movies when they're kids. But this metaphor doesn't work. People talking on cell phones while driving isn't the same as people racing trains. People talk on cell phones while driving because it seems to be the most convenient thing to do. I don't know if a significant number of people actually race trains, but if anyone does, it's for the thrill. If this idea happens at all, and they REALLY do it because they "think it's cool," it probably would be because they saw it recently in a "Need for Speed" movie or something, NOT because they saw it in an animated movie when they were kids.

Heck, I don't even remember anything from the animated movies I saw as a kid. I couldn't for the life of me tell you what happens in all those Disney features I watched over and over again.

would you allow pedophiles to receive Namblas newsletter while in jail. Or a rapist to receive "Playboy"? If not, why?

If they're already in prison, why should I care? The only problem I'd have with it is that if they receive those things they're not being significantly punished for their crimes.

Petra did a song years ago called "Computer Brains". Bet you can't guess what the premise is. A line in the song says, "Garbage in, garbage out".

You mean some dumb ol' rock band from the 80's said it!!!??? It must be the GOSPEL TRUTH!!!

168 posted on 07/07/2006 6:37:31 PM PDT by pcottraux (It's pronounced "P. Coe-troe.")
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