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There was no electoral fraud: Mexican Political Analyst Ricardo Alemán (Translation)
eluniversal.com.mx ^
| July 6, 2006
| eluniversal.com.mx (translated by self)
Posted on 07/06/2006 6:03:55 PM PDT by StJacques
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To: freedumb2003
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. . . For example, almost everyone has overlooked the fact that the Congress is now almost all PAN. . . ."
That was one of the articles I thought about translating:
http://www.eluniversal.com.mx/nacion/140204.html
At the time I found it the numbers were only 60% complete, but I did see that they held up.
A lot of people do not realize how much of a different legislative environment Calderon will face compared with that which Vicente Fox had to contend. Fox was blocked at almost every turn by the PRI in particular, who lost really big in the parliamentary elections in Mexico this past weekend. There's an article on "La debacle tricolor" that examines the changes, but does not go into any analysis as to why at:
http://www.eluniversal.com.mx/nacion/140222.html
I'm personally convinced the PRI has paid a very high price for its obstructionism and that they are going to have to ask themselves whether, in terms of forming a legislative agenda, they want to join the PRD -- which their historical traditions would suggest would be their home -- or the PAN, which common sense and moral values would suggest is where they would end up. I'm pretty sure they're talking it over among themselves right now, trying to set their price, because the PRI has never been about anything but selling out (forgive my bias).
But the debacle of the PRI is the other big untold story in this election.
To: StJacques
trying to set their price, because the PRI has never been about anything but selling out (forgive my bias). That ain't bias. When I was describing the PRI's ideology earlier today, I basically said "their ideology is power -- they appear to be Left because they give a lot away to pay their way to power."
But the debacle of the PRI is the other big untold story in this election.
This will be an interesting 6 years. Lets see if the new Prez can get the traction Fox couldn't get.
OTOH, we thought that having a Republican Congress and a Republican President would grease the skids for us and that hasn't worked out very well at all.
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posted on
07/06/2006 8:28:49 PM PDT
by
freedumb2003
(Let them die of thirst in the dark.)
To: StJacques
Thanks for your excellent posts explaining the election ... and for calming my nerves when other freepers were implying Obrador was going to win (ugg!)
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posted on
07/06/2006 11:44:46 PM PDT
by
WOSG
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To: jocko12
Despite the talk(fear) of results like Florida and Washington State, note that in Florida both the starting and final margins were 1 or 2 per 10,000. In Washington State it was about the same. In Mexico now, it is 57 per 10,000, which is a huge diference when it comes to any kind of retallying or recounting.
To: BohDaThone
That's a relief.
Now lets hope they accept the results quietly.
To: bmwcyle
Yep, if they lose it's fraud (Gore FL, Kerry, OH). But if they win the election was perfect and the result never to be questioned (Gore NM, Kerry, WI, PA, NH, etc).
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posted on
07/07/2006 11:15:03 PM PDT
by
SoCar
(Get rid of Goober Graham!)
To: bmwcyle
Hey, I've always wanted to sign up for DU and ask the simple question, if Republicans are so in control as to steal elections, why don't we steal them by much bigger margins? Why make them so close as to be questioned? Why just steal Ohio in '04 and not another "close" state to make their conspiracy theories harder? Why steal Mexico by such a small margin?
Heck if I was in control of Diebolt or Choice Point, or whatever, I would pad my candidate by huge unquestionable amounts. I would not leave it so close.
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posted on
07/07/2006 11:20:57 PM PDT
by
SoCar
(Get rid of Goober Graham!)
To: SoCar
Joe Kennedy, "I buy the election but I'm not going to buy a land slide."
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posted on
07/08/2006 7:42:01 AM PDT
by
bmwcyle
(Only stupid people would vote for McCain, Warner, Hagle, Snowe, Graham, or any RINO)
To: bmwcyle
To: StJacques
Al Gore has opened the door for election fraud every time a liberal loses.
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posted on
07/09/2006 5:04:11 PM PDT
by
ladyinred
(The NYTimes, hang 'em high!)
To: ladyinred
"Al Gore has opened the door for election fraud every time a liberal loses."
Yes he has ladyinred. And I would argue further that he done more damage than that. Taking my cue from another Freeper who posted this in either this or another thread, the whole world looks to the United States as an example of how democracy should function and now the whole world sees election results as only the first step towards determining an eventual winner.
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