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There was no electoral fraud: Mexican Political Analyst Ricardo Alemán (Translation)
eluniversal.com.mx ^ | July 6, 2006 | eluniversal.com.mx (translated by self)

Posted on 07/06/2006 6:03:55 PM PDT by StJacques

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I've read a number of editorials and comments from Mexican analysts themselves today, but I chose this one because the analyst, Ricardo Alemán, is expressing a viewpoint I am hoping takes hold among the ruling classes in Mexico, which is that the election is over and that dragging out the inevitable result will do no good and much harm.

One of the reasons why many of us, including myself, supported NAFTA was the belief we shared that once Mexico entered the modern world it would have to begin to rethink its immature political past. I think Alemán's views are quite mature. Mexico has a lot to lose if the election controversy drags out -- notice what he said about the tension between the financial sector and external investors -- and this gives us reason to hope that the "forces of order" put a brake on the downward spiral López Obrador threatens to take the country into if he refuses to recognize defeat. I'm hoping that Mexico turns it back on chaos and the best reason for them not to sink into it is that they now have something to lose which they didn't possess twenty years ago -- a role to play in both the economic and political spheres of the region.
1 posted on 07/06/2006 6:03:59 PM PDT by StJacques
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To: StJacques

The liberal don't win. There has to be problems. /sarcasm


2 posted on 07/06/2006 6:05:30 PM PDT by bmwcyle (Only stupid people would vote for McCain, Warner, Hagle, Snowe, Graham, or any RINO)
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To: conservative in nyc; CedarDave; Pikachu_Dad; BunnySlippers; machogirl; NinoFan; chilepepper; ...
A Mexican election ping.

I'm hoping to see an online text of Calderon's speech tonight. That is what I'd like to translate next. But I may not be able to get to it until late, which may mean that we'll have to wait until tomorrow. We'll see.
3 posted on 07/06/2006 6:06:42 PM PDT by StJacques
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But lopez will win with 2 more vote counts.Just look at the state of Washington 2 yrs. ago.


4 posted on 07/06/2006 6:16:55 PM PDT by jocko12
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To: StJacques

You would like this then:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2711562

You did such great work last night .. and today. Thanks.


5 posted on 07/06/2006 6:17:00 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (NUTS!)
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BunnySlippers;

I can't believe it. There was almost a recognition on that thread that Calderon really did win.

"AMLO's support came in early and largely from the south, where it is based. Meanwhile, Calderon's support came in late and largely from the north, where it is based. Lopez Obrador's party tied up many northern districts with challenges, which gradually gave way and one by one Calderon districts could release their numbers, changing the outcome late in the night."

underline emphasis mine

And there was more. I guess after last night the psychotics all ran to their psychologists today. The guys who are hanging around there today are the ones who are just deluded.
6 posted on 07/06/2006 6:27:07 PM PDT by StJacques
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Lightweights ... compared to our Freeper Mexican analysts. Woof! :)


7 posted on 07/06/2006 6:35:22 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (NUTS!)
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To: BunnySlippers

Three 'meows' back at ya... (Well, that is if the three chow cats didn't have their snouts in a trough.)


8 posted on 07/06/2006 6:46:30 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad
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To: BunnySlippers
You would like this then: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2711562

Are those asshats actually hoping for a Marxist Mexico?

I know all one has to do is hate Bush to become a hero in the DUmmie mind, but cmon now!

9 posted on 07/06/2006 6:48:27 PM PDT by RightWingNilla
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To: BunnySlippers

Lopez Obrador may not be a "democrat", but he sure acts like one of our Democrats.


10 posted on 07/06/2006 6:51:43 PM PDT by gaspar
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To: BunnySlippers
"Lightweights ... compared to our Freeper Mexican analysts. Woof!" :)



11 posted on 07/06/2006 6:52:48 PM PDT by StJacques
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To: StJacques

bttt


12 posted on 07/06/2006 6:57:45 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: RightWingNilla

BunnySlipper's D/U link is actually a halfway decent analysis of what likely happened... Obrador's recount votes came in early and largely from the south where the PRD is strong. It appears that PRD challenges to PAN votes in the north delayed posting those totals but were gradually overcome. So Calderon's vote total gained and eventually overtook Obrador's.

It appears the Mexican populace is not in the mood for Obrador's troublemaking and want to move on. But just like the Rats in this country, to them winning is everything and anyway to get there is o.k. by them.


13 posted on 07/06/2006 7:00:07 PM PDT by CedarDave (When a soldier dies, a protester gloats, a family cries, an Iraqi votes)
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To: StJacques

Yes, bump me to any and all of your translations.

Thanks


14 posted on 07/06/2006 7:00:48 PM PDT by CedarDave (When a soldier dies, a protester gloats, a family cries, an Iraqi votes)
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For anyone that didn't see it, this is the type of work that went on in last night's counting thread. An amazing evening and so many people to thank. I had to stay up to the crossover point plus a bit longer to make sure it was real. Here is the final graphic thanks to Pikachu_Dad:


15 posted on 07/06/2006 7:11:30 PM PDT by CedarDave (When a soldier dies, a protester gloats, a family cries, an Iraqi votes)
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To: BunnySlippers

Well, as opposed to people sitting in their Mommy's beasement, many of us Freepers are either in or are married to Mexican nationals.

I am completely on top of what is happening in Mexico.

For example, almost everyone has overlooked the fact that the Congress is now almost all PAN. That is much more significant than the President's orientation.

We analyze over here with a clear eye.


16 posted on 07/06/2006 7:11:40 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Let them die of thirst in the dark.)
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To: CedarDave

That looks like an F-22 HUD display! ;)


17 posted on 07/06/2006 7:12:26 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Let them die of thirst in the dark.)
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To: freedumb2003

Had to Google that term to see what you were referring to. This graphic is informative and certainly eyecatching.


18 posted on 07/06/2006 7:19:45 PM PDT by CedarDave (When a soldier dies, a protester gloats, a family cries, an Iraqi votes)
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To: StJacques

The losing candidate's name was Juan "Alberto Goro" Kerry.


19 posted on 07/06/2006 7:23:04 PM PDT by Ciexyz (Leaning on the everlasting arms.)
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To: Ciexyz

So what does Mexico have to do to win their south over?


20 posted on 07/06/2006 8:11:11 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad
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