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Judge's ruling keeps DeLay on ballot
Houston Chronicle ^ | July 06, 2006 | R.G. Ratcliffe

Posted on 07/06/2006 9:28:20 AM PDT by AntiGuv

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To: AntiGuv

He was an idiot for not dropping out before the primary.


141 posted on 07/06/2006 12:24:33 PM PDT by Democratshavenobrains
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To: Elpasser
He has no intention to serve.

Then why did he leave his name in the primary ballots? Oh, that's right, so he could raise campaing money to use for his defense fund. Delay can withdraw if he wants, but he was trying to game the system by staying on through the primaries, and hoping the party chairman could replace him, even though Texas law states that this cannot happen.
142 posted on 07/06/2006 12:29:03 PM PDT by Quick1 (There is no Theory of Evolution. Just a list of animals Chuck Norris allows to live.)
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To: SolidSupplySide
We wouldn't have this problem if Campbell had won the primary. Campbell would have actually run for office!

SSS, how 'bout dem sour grapes?

You pimped Campbell over DeLay for months and DeLay still whipped him. The district didn't want Campbell. It still doesn't want Campbell.

I will agree on one thing however: DeLay should never have run in the primary if he was going to cause this mess. It is his obligation now to run for this seat and let the chips fall where they may.

The tide is turning, and Lampson would still be the underdog.

143 posted on 07/06/2006 12:31:08 PM PDT by sinkspur (Today, we settled all family business.)
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To: untrained skeptic
I'm wondering if it's about time to call "equal protection" on the DeLay case.

In Gore 2000, the US Supreme Court ruled 7-2 that it was a violation of equal protection for voters in some counties to have a recount, but not in others. The Supreme Court ruled that for a state-wide office you had to either recount all of the votes or none of them.

Fast forward to 2002, and the US Supreme Court refused to intervene in the Torricelli case, perhaps being gun-shy from Gore v. Bush. Regardless, they said that it was a state matter and let the NJ State Supreme Court decide. New Jersey ignored their own election laws in the name of "giving voters a competitive" election.

Now it is 2006 in Texas, and Texas is ruling that DeLay must stay on the ballot. Given that we now have the New Jersey State Supreme Court as a precedent, can someone make the argument that since this election is for a Federal office that all states participate in, that the voting rules should be the same for all people voting for offices in the chamber, that is, that it's unfair for Texans to be made to vote under opposite conditions than New Jerseyans when the situations are so similar? In other words, it is not equal protection among the states for New Jersey to be allowed to ignore their own election laws for Senator while Texas is not allowed to do the same.

-PJ

144 posted on 07/06/2006 12:36:29 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (It's still not safe to vote Democrat.)
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To: HostileTerritory; carlo3b
Delay is not very popular in his district.

I see you live in MA. How about we ask someone who actually lives in his district whether he's popular or not.

Carlo, what say ye?

145 posted on 07/06/2006 12:44:22 PM PDT by jellybean (Proud to be an Ann-droid and a Steyn-aholic)
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To: Quick1

"Then why did he leave his name in the primary ballots? Oh, that's right, so he could raise campaing money to use for his defense fund. Delay can withdraw if he wants, but he was trying to game the system by staying on through the primaries, and hoping the party chairman could replace him, even though Texas law states that this cannot happen."

Delay may have been gaming the system, my oh-so-bright sarcastic friend, but I'd be quite surprised if the Fifth Circuit allowed Republican voters with the choice of a Republican candidate who has decided he will NOT serve and has become ineligible to serve, and a Democrat. It's just not going to happen.

And remember: you read it here first.


146 posted on 07/06/2006 12:45:56 PM PDT by Elpasser
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To: Elpasser
I'd be quite surprised if the Fifth Circuit allowed Republican voters with the choice of a Republican candidate who has decided he will NOT serve and has become ineligible to serve, and a Democrat.

1) DeLay hasn't decided he will not serve. He can easily withdraw his name from the ballot. The question here is whether the GOP can appoint a new candidate.

2)Even if the GOP isn't able to appoint a replacement, why does the choice come down to DeLay and a Democrat? Is it too late for the filing deadline for Independents? Sure, they may have some funding issues, but they only have DeLay to blame for that.
147 posted on 07/06/2006 12:52:01 PM PDT by Quick1 (There is no Theory of Evolution. Just a list of animals Chuck Norris allows to live.)
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To: RustMartialis
Of course I haven't been able to read the ruling. Neither have you or anyone else.

Does the name "Dick Cheney" ring a bell with you?"

'Judge Sidney Fitzwater in Dallas ... went on to rule that Mr. Cheney cannot be considered an inhabitant of Texas, given his "intent that Wyoming be his place of habitation." This intent was evidenced, in part, by his notification to "the United States Secret Service that his primary residence is his home in Jackson Hole, Wyoming."
This ruling was affirmed by the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit on December 7, 2000.'

148 posted on 07/06/2006 12:56:27 PM PDT by mrsmith
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To: Gay State Conservative

Right!

Wouldn't it be great if Delay were forced to run . . . and won?

:)


149 posted on 07/06/2006 12:59:20 PM PDT by cvq3842
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To: Quick1

All filing deadlines in Texas are done, barring a major redrawing of the map per the ruling concerning TX-23.


150 posted on 07/06/2006 1:02:03 PM PDT by Sam Spade
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To: Quick1

Delay hasn't decided he won't serve? How much clearer can you get than resigning your seat and getting a new job?


151 posted on 07/06/2006 1:03:47 PM PDT by Elpasser
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To: Elpasser
How much clearer can you get than resigning your seat and getting a new job?

Well, he can withdraw his name from the ballot. There's more than a couple Freepers in her encouraging him to decide to run, so it's not like he has completely removed the option.
152 posted on 07/06/2006 1:08:03 PM PDT by Quick1 (There is no Theory of Evolution. Just a list of animals Chuck Norris allows to live.)
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To: Sam Spade

Looks like the GOP is going to have to start a massive write-in campaign, then.


153 posted on 07/06/2006 1:09:00 PM PDT by Quick1 (There is no Theory of Evolution. Just a list of animals Chuck Norris allows to live.)
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To: mrsmith
I've read the ruling. So could you if you wanted to. It's on the court's website. The opinion is very well written and thought out. It is a victory for conservative principles, the rule of law, the Constitution, and the right of the voters to select their representatives.

When was the ruling to which you refer made? It is not relevant to this issue, nor is it considered controlling precedent.
154 posted on 07/06/2006 1:12:12 PM PDT by Iwo Jima ("Close the border. Then we'll talk.")
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To: Quick1

Why not just vote for Delay?


155 posted on 07/06/2006 1:13:44 PM PDT by Iwo Jima ("Close the border. Then we'll talk.")
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To: Iwo Jima

You could do that, too, and then hope he stays in Virginia so that he is ruled ineligible, which would mean a special election I believe.

IANAL, but I think that that is what would happen. I guess it just depends how comfortable people are with voting for him. I personally consider him a slimeball, but I'm not in his district. :)


156 posted on 07/06/2006 1:17:07 PM PDT by Quick1 (There is no Theory of Evolution. Just a list of animals Chuck Norris allows to live.)
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To: AmishDude; sinkspur
And so your motive is clear: spite.

I am not spiteful and not full of sour grapes. I saw the trouble DeLay was in before the primary. I urged Republicans to vote for the candidate more likely to keep TX22 Republican. I foresaw a Lampson victory if DeLay won the primary.

Freepers attacked the messenger then. They attack the messenger now.

157 posted on 07/06/2006 1:18:42 PM PDT by SolidSupplySide
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To: NormsRevenge

So Herbie appointed another (failed) "impartial" judge.


Like Souter, Kennedy, .... so many other circuit judges.

This man failed America in so many ways.


158 posted on 07/06/2006 1:18:54 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but Hillary's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
This man failed America in so many ways.

If you're talking about DeLay, then I agree. He failed by keeping his name in the primaries when he knew he wouldn't be running.
159 posted on 07/06/2006 1:20:59 PM PDT by Quick1 (There is no Theory of Evolution. Just a list of animals Chuck Norris allows to live.)
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To: mrsmith
Of course I haven't been able to read the ruling. Neither have you or anyone else.

Why do you say that? I've read the ruling.

160 posted on 07/06/2006 1:21:10 PM PDT by SolidSupplySide
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