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Losing their jobs and even their iPods
Star-Telegram ^ | Mon, Jul. 03, 2006 | Barry Shlachter, Jim Fuquay, Maria M. Perotin

Posted on 07/06/2006 5:16:57 AM PDT by Eepsy

Losing their jobs and even their iPodsBy Barry Shlachter, Jim Fuquay, Maria M. Perotin Star-Telegram Staff Writers National Semiconductor giveth, and it taketh away.

The Santa Clara, Calif.-based company gained loads of publicity last month for announcing plans to give every employee a 30-gigabyte video iPod.

Last week, the company laid off 35 employees at its Arlington plant. To the surprise of some at the plant, the laid-off workers were asked to give back their high-tech toys.

A person who called the Star-Telegram claiming to have been one of the 35 laid-off workers said many employees at the Arlington plant were under the impression that the iPods were theirs to keep. Some had sold them or given them as gifts, according to the caller.

"Nothing was ever said about ever having to give it back," the caller said. "If I'd known it was company property, I never would have picked it up."

At the time, the company had said it was handing out the devices to distribute company information as well as reward its 8,500 workers for its best fiscal year ever. Employees were also allowed personal use of the devices.

It was a natural selection. National Semiconductor manufactures analog chips used in portable devices including Apple's iPods.

And several media reports referred to the iPods as "gifts."

"They were not a gift," company spokeswoman LuAnn Jenkins said Friday. Jenkins said she didn't know whether the company ever intended for the workers to keep the iPods.

On the news release announcing the perk, the company said it was "equipping" its employees with the wildly popular media devices. Employees were informed about the undertaking using the same language, Jenkins said.

"We were very careful on the language we used talking about it," Jenkins said.

Employees who leave the company can return the device or pay "fair market value" for it, she said.

The video iPod normally retails for about $300.

As more than 100 workers enthusiastically received their iPods one morning last month at the Arlington plant, two company spokesmen would not directly answer questions from Star-Telegram reporter Aman Batheja as to whether workers would be able to keep the iPods once they left the company.

"We haven't crossed that bridge," said Scott Kahl, human resources director.

The road to that bridge turned out to be pretty short.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: ipods
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1 posted on 07/06/2006 5:16:58 AM PDT by Eepsy
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Nat Semi said the iPods were equipment that employees could use for non-work as well as work purposes.

Of course these losers have to return them.

This is like people trying to walk off with a work-issued laptop or Blackberry.

2 posted on 07/06/2006 5:20:17 AM PDT by wideawake ("The nation which forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten." - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: Eepsy
"We were very careful on the language we used talking about it," Jenkins said.

...and yet there is still some confusion.

Here's a language hint: "THESE IPODS ARE NOT GIFTS!"

I'd say the company is outta luck here.

3 posted on 07/06/2006 5:20:53 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: ShadowAce

Unless there's more to the story I tend to agree.


4 posted on 07/06/2006 5:23:54 AM PDT by DB (©)
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To: Eepsy
best fiscal year ever!

Additional layoffs may be annonced soon.

5 posted on 07/06/2006 5:25:25 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy ("He hits me, he cries, he runs to the court and sues me.")
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To: wideawake
Of course these losers have to return them.

Laid off = loser? Sheesh!

6 posted on 07/06/2006 5:25:58 AM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: wideawake

If they were company property, why is there any confusion here at all? You would think they would make them sign out the equipoment and log serial numbers, etc like typically happens with laptops, etc.

I think the comapny should be SOL, the people keep their Ipods.


7 posted on 07/06/2006 5:30:28 AM PDT by Toby06 (True conservatives vote based on their values, not for parties.)
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To: Eepsy

Sorry

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1649015/posts


8 posted on 07/06/2006 5:32:00 AM PDT by Eepsy (Hocus pocus alamagocus!)
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To: RadioAstronomer
Laid off = loser?

Hardly.

Laid-off worker who thinks he has a right to walk off with company property just because he lost his job = loser.

9 posted on 07/06/2006 5:32:32 AM PDT by wideawake ("The nation which forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten." - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: Eepsy

Kick 'em while they're down why don't you. I haven't heard of anything this low since a company I worked for laid some people off and then tried to force a couple of them to repay grad school tuition the company had reimbursed them for.


10 posted on 07/06/2006 5:33:24 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: wideawake
Laid-off worker who thinks he has a right to walk off with company property just because he lost his job = loser.

Hmmm.... I think many thought it was a gift, not company property.

11 posted on 07/06/2006 5:35:40 AM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: Eepsy

Everyone who is still working there should immediately return them so they don't remain liable for equipment they don't actually need.


12 posted on 07/06/2006 5:35:41 AM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
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To: Eepsy

This company will get such bad PR that it would have been better to just let the 35 that they hired, after their most profitable year, keep their iPods as a going-away gift. Their HR staff needs to be fired, too.


13 posted on 07/06/2006 5:35:53 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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Correction: " the 35 that they fired" Sorry...more coffee, please.


14 posted on 07/06/2006 5:37:21 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: Eepsy
The WSJ had an article yesterday about a guy who received a $12,000 signing bonus, found out he didn't like the job, wanted to leave and had to return the bonus (it was clear in his case that quitting within a year would require the return of the bonus). He was trying to avoid returning it. Also, taxes had been withheld, so he only recieved $7000. He wanted to know if he had to return $7000 or $12,000.

The WSJ spent a fair amount of time on the tax issue. That seems relevant to this ipod case. If the company filed paperwork declaring that the ipods were compensation paid to the employees, then the employees will pay a tax on their $300 gift. On the other hand, if no tax paperwork was filed, then the ipods were not given to the employees.

I don't see much gray area. It is or it isn't.

15 posted on 07/06/2006 5:37:34 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy ("He hits me, he cries, he runs to the court and sues me.")
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To: Eepsy

Aside from the obvious issue, I wonder why they chose IPods. They have a very bazaar interface, and are a bit unwieldy to interface with a PC for more typical storage functions.

Plus, they don't come with a manual!


16 posted on 07/06/2006 5:40:47 AM PDT by meyer (A vote for amnesty is a vote against America.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

"Additional layoffs may be annonced soon."

CEO will probably end up in jail too.


17 posted on 07/06/2006 5:44:20 AM PDT by driftdiver
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To: Toby06
Totally agree. For company issued equipment, it is customary to have to "sign" for it. Even their company spokesman doesn't seem clear on whether the ipods were gifts or not...if the company spokesman isn't clear (she contradicts herself) how were the employees to know.

"They were not a gift," company spokeswoman LuAnn Jenkins said Friday. Jenkins said she didn't know whether the company ever intended for the workers to keep the iPods.

18 posted on 07/06/2006 5:49:03 AM PDT by dawn53
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To: wideawake
Laid-off worker who thinks he has a right to walk off with company property just because he lost his job = loser.

It appears from statements that the company engaged in a deception by keeping its ownership in implicit rather than explicit language because they knew that if employees understood they would be responsible for the company toys nobody would have taken them. Also, the company obviously got them wholesale. If they expect to be reimbured the retail price, then this was a money-making scheme to receive full new retail money months and years later on every loss of used and tax depreciated equipment. Every employee should return them now to avoid liability for "equipment" they don't need and let the company eat the loss and goodwill. I predict they will save employee goodwill, current and former, by eating the cash loss.
19 posted on 07/06/2006 5:51:39 AM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
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To: wideawake; RadioAstronomer
I love it when employees walk off the job, no IPOD involved.

- i.e. Many a Company = Loser

20 posted on 07/06/2006 5:51:54 AM PDT by chris_ab
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