North Korea long-range missile flew for 7 minutes, not 42 seconds: S. Korean military

Yonhap News (South Korea) ^ | July 6, 2006

[Renegade]

How come only 500 miles ? The shuttle makes it to orbit in 7 minutes .

[InvisibleChurch]

i'm surprised kimjongil doesn't say it's still flying around doing loop-d-loops over nebraska

[Fatuncle]

"How come only 500 miles ? The shuttle makes it to orbit in 7 minutes."

The shuttle is boosting at 3 g's the whole way.

[justa-hairyape]

Sorry, you got the wrong impression. I would suggest you reread the posts again and take the entire reply in context with itself. I do not use Freerepublic to promote or cheer for anyones position. Especially a nutty crazy Commie. I did refer to him as a Crazy Communist. Is that not clear enough ? At any rate, some of us are here trying to figure out what the nutjob firing missiles is trying to do. One could speculate that not even our own President knows right now. Therefore, worse case scenarios make for relevant discussions. You do realize that similar discussions are probably occurring in more secure locations. What we see in the paper and on the news wires is called spin. Or more accurately, slanted reporting. For example, the missile number jumped all over the place. The distance the missiles traveled is also varying. That is called spin. Every news agency in the world has a dirty laundry department. That is old news.

PS - You might want to read that recent thread I posted where I insinuated that a first strike against the Russians and Iranians is now 'in play'. Not very commie friendly. It is in the subtext though and might not stand out too strongly. At any rate, the Crinton Enabled Chicom Hammer may be about to fall, primarily because Hillary cannot win democratically. We all as American Citizens must now keep an 'Unblinking Eye' constantly on the alert for the defense of our freedom. The Chinese Red Dragon may be about to take flight.

[Right Wing Assault]

Fuzzy math.

[Renegade]

A question. One of Clintoon's people was saying that" to hit a target moving 17,500 mph would be next to impossible ." ( but not if a laser is used ) However, a warhead launched would not travel that fast as it would stay in orbit . What would be the average speed of an ICBM warhead ?

[justa-hairyape]

recent thread I posted

Correction. Should read 'recent posting to an N.K. thread I made'.

[Begin]

...the East Sea...

Since when did the Sea of Japan get renamed?

[Int]

Is there any reliable information out there on where all the 7 missiles have landed? Is there a sense that there are active targets they're trying to hit?

As a bit of a radical sovereignist, I think states can do whatever tests they want but these sort of tests without warning are ridiculous considering they could unwittingly shoot down passenger planes or sink ships in their path.

[Rep-for-real]

It may have taken seven minutes for the missile to splash, but it was not in a controlled powered flight for seven minutes. And none of the other missiles flew over Japan. Trust me on this, I'm in a position to know.

[RDTF]

ping

[Int]

Since when did the Sea of Japan get renamed?

I think the Koreans have always called it the East Sea. Yonhap = South Korean news agency

[r9etb]

Don't believe it.

[LibertyLee]

7 minutes should get you to near orbital velocity. Something's wrong with this picture...

[RGSpincich]

South Korea would like to exaggerate the North's capabilities for their own benefit.

[LibertyLee]

My thought, too. Apparently there's confusion between "burned" and "flew". Typically ICBMs burn for several minutes before they leave the atmosphere where they enter "free fall" until reentering the atmosphere near the target location. 42 seconds seems far too short for an ICBM.

This makes sense. A 42 second break-up is sort of indicative of a "Max-Q" problem as the missile passes through the sound barrier. Same as the shuttle at around 63-68 seconds. A smaller missile should reach Max-Q faster especially if it uses hypergolic or solid fuel.

[sageb1]

This may seem like a dumb question, but in all of this, in the media, and in the responses of China and Russia, I don't seem to detect much concern for Japan. Is there no real threat for them from misguided missiles?

[Westlander]

Good Read. Thank You.

[LibertyLee]

I don't seem to detect much concern for Japan

They are VERY concerned. They are leading the Fight in the UN Security Council. They aren't a veto power which limits their effectiveness there. But they've been quite voiciferous in their opposition. They are the only power to impose unilateral sanctions against North Korea. Unilateral sanctions don't have much effect (because the Chinese can supply much of what the Japanese do)..but they're the only ones who have done something other than print position papers.

[sageb1]

Japan is concerned, but Russia and China don't seem all that concerned about Japan.