Posted on 07/05/2006 3:33:11 PM PDT by pissant
You can think that, unless SOI5 is correct. Then the 3/12 murders, as claimed, did not happen.
One central question remains: why would two servicemembers implicate themselves in a horrible set of crimes if they didn't happen?
There are more disturbing elements in the rumors circulating in Iraq - that there was hair and clothing and buttons left in the dead girl's hands. That, if true, might explain why the SOI5 knew the girl had been raped.
Which ones said they raped and/or killed anyone?
Per the affidavit:
SOI1 testified that SOI2, SOI3, SG and KP1 went to the house.
SOI1 stayed at TCP2 to monitor radio.
SOI3 dumped AK47 found at house (probably murder weapon)
SOI2 and SOI3 testified SG murdered, SG and KP1 raped.
SOI4 heard rumors(?) and asked SOI1 "Who Did it" SOI1 disclosed to SOI4.
SOI5 was at TCP when initial report was made to military.
SOI2 went to the house to investigate with others.
Other:
Four in custody in Iraq (Probably SOI1, SOI2, SOI3, KP1)
SG arrested in US.
Yep. No one has confessed to rape or murder yet.
You've got the cases mixed up. It was reported and said by one of the lawyers that one/some of the Pendleton 8 was/were threatened with the death penalty.
Do you have a link to the above info/rumors that you have provided?
True. OTOH, those that testified they witnessed murder/rape at the same time implicated themselves in the preparation and execution of the 'plan'.
1) #8 Why did SOI1 not stop them when they went to rape the woman? This reads like he knew what was going to happen. Perhaps it is just written poorly and he only learned their real intent after the fact. As written, it reflects badly on SOI1.
2) You had a question as to why SOI1 let them take his M4. The four soldiers left with 4 weapons (3 - M4's and a shotgun). So this means that one of them left SOI1 with their weapon. So SOI1 is probably well armed.
3) #8 implies that all four burned their clothes. But given that SOI2 and SOI3 allegedly did 'nothing' at the event - why would they have blood on their clothes? This is probably just poorly written. Based on the stated conduct, I would expect that only GREEN and KP1 would need to burn their clothes.
4) #8 says that when confronted by SOI4 as to "Who did it?" he said "everyone who was there". So why is SOI2 are SOI3 listed as 'sources of information' and not as 'known participants' KP2 and KP3? They certiainly engaged in conduct that is actionable - and by their own signed sworn statements.
5) #9 why did SOI2 not put a stop to the plot at that point? Why did he go if he did not participate in the rape? Why did he change clothes? Why did SOI3 go with them?
6) #10 is flaky. First it is KP1 who threw the woman to the ground and then it is SOI3. Since SOI3 is guarding the door, it is likely just a typo. It is not a minor point as it relates to how involved SOI3 was in the crime.
7) #10 and #11. Those are some rough guys to want to have sex just after they killed a three people.
8) #11. SOI3 gives some damning evidence against himself here. Notice that while SOI2 said the woman had been thrown to the ground, SOI3 does not say anything about that. Perhaps because he was guilty of doing that. Perhaps because he was not in the room til the gunshots happened.
9) It can't be much fun mounting guard duty while two guys have their fun. How much time did that take?
10) #12. Whoops. The date error you spotted is there.
Also a typo as 'soldiers' is spelt 'solders'.
Thanks for the ping pissant!
Because the wer "sources of information". KP2 would indicate they were NOT sources of information.
Here. Listen to the report itself.
This is an affidavit to execute an arrest warrant. Not all information is provided. Just enough to get the warrant.
Read it again. You have two witnesses confessing to planning' being accomplices to; and then covering up a rape and four murders.
Perhaps all that shooting got him out of the mood?
ick. NPR source. I trust them to get it right about as much as I trust CBS or the BBC.
This is the report that claims the woman was 14-15. The military report says she was 25ish.
I've read it so much I have it memorized.
If this turns about to be true, we may find a change of status for SO12 and SO13 at least by Monday 7/10/06 after the preliminary hearing and detention hearing for Steve Green.
Presently the 4 that are still in Iraq have had their weapons taken and are on lock down.
Yes they did.
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