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Ken Lay has died (heart attack)
Reuters | 7/5/06

Posted on 07/05/2006 7:03:35 AM PDT by ElRushbo

cause of death unknown


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To: encm(ss)
""Let's see how long it takes for the conspiracy theory nuts to get ahold of this and run wild with it." Free Republic members seem to be doing a pretty good job of it without DU help. LOL"

Not Yet, truth is; Ken Lay faked his death and left a body double, he is on permanent vacation with Elvis and Bin Laden in the secret undersea city in the Bermuda Triangle built in the site of Atlantis which is operated by members of the Bilderberger Conspiracy.

301 posted on 07/05/2006 9:03:37 AM PDT by KTM rider ( Support Our Troops Donate to Irey)
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To: Frapster

"Grace is a license to sin"

Not likely.


302 posted on 07/05/2006 9:04:34 AM PDT by Praxeus
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To: sweetiepiezer; All
The glitterati attend forums in Aspen every year.

"The 2006 Aspen Ideas Festival: July 3 through July 9. All week long, the Atlantic writers will file dispatches, so stay in touch with the happenings in Aspen. News reports of the events will also keep you informed.

Institute Joins Aspen Music Festival for Evening of Words and Music; Sen. John McCain and David Gergen Address World Affairs. US Senator John McCain conversed with Harvard Professor and former Presidential advisor and Aspen Institute trustee David Gergen at a special “Evening of Words and Music” event co-sponsored by the Aspen Music Festival and the Aspen Institute, held at the Music Festival’s Benedict Music Tent on July 1st.

Mr. Gergen and Senator McCain spoke about a variety of timely issues, including immigration policy reform, the war on terror, and the religious right’s presence in the Republican party. Another feature of the program included performances by renowned pianist Orli Shaham and the international students of the Aspen Music Festival School, performing works by George Gershwin, Jascha Heifetz, Aaron Copland, and Leonard Bernstein. (For coverage of the event read “McCain talks war, religion, immigration,” The Aspen Times, July 2, 2006).

Madeleine Albright - Former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright was the recent guest at a book talk in Aspen, where she discussed her latest book, The Mighty and the Almighty: Reflections on America, God and World Affairs.

Speaking about US policies in dealing with Iran, Iraq, and North Korea, Albright said, "I believe in democratization...but imposing democracy is an oxymoron." (Read more in "Albright on war, nukes...jewelry," The Aspen Times, July 1, 2006, and in "Albright speaks out on religion, democracy and her pins," Aspen Daily News, June 30, 2006).

FORTUNE / Aspen Institute Brainstorm. Fortune's conference blog describes the attendees, the discussions, and behind the scenes events. Follow the news stories about the conference.

The Aspen Institute’s Henry Crown Fellowship Program today announced its 2006 Class of Henry Crown Fellows. The Henry Crown Fellowship is designed to engage the next generation of leaders in the challenge of community-spirited leadership. It brings together young executives and professionals under age 45 who have already achieved conspicuous success in their chosen fields of endeavor. The new Henry Crown Fellows will meet four times over a two-year period and will undertake individual community service commitments. Read more.

Ethanol as a Replacement for Gasoline. A group of business, government, environmental and academic leaders has proposed a series of actions to promote the widespread commercialization of both corn and cellulosic ethanol to improve energy security, the environment, and the economy.

Co-chaired by Booz Allen Hamilton Vice President and former CIA Director R. James Woolsey and former Congressman Tom Ewing (R. IL), they developed a series of recommendations involving improved crop yields, processing of biomass into ethanol, manufacture of more cars that can burn either ethanol or gasoline, and the provision of ethanol pumps at more filling stations. Their report, "A High Growth Strategy for Ethanol," includes a discussion of the potential of ethanol, the group's recommendations, and a series of discussion papers commissioned for the dialogue.

Philip Merrill -The Aspen Institute mourns the loss of our longtime friend and trustee Philip Merrill. The publisher, former diplomat, and philanthropist had been a trustee of the Institute since 1993 and will be sorely missed."

303 posted on 07/05/2006 9:05:24 AM PDT by STARWISE (They (Rats) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: Fury

Why diversify when Enron was doing so well. It was so much more complicated than was explained on the evening news. And began much earlier than January 20, 2001.


304 posted on 07/05/2006 9:05:43 AM PDT by Jaded (does it really need a sarcasm tag?)
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To: ladyjane

Dear ladyjane,

I'm not sure that I would advise the average worker in his 20s to buy any bonds. Then again, I guess is depends on an individual's capacity to deal with volatility, what my broker calls their "risk profile."


sitetest


305 posted on 07/05/2006 9:06:10 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: Praxeus
Mr. Lay was a mass criminal

What does that phrase even mean?

Lay was a thief and stole millions of dollars and seems to have paid, in some way, for his crime.

The fact that I think car thieves are despicable and should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law doesn't mean that I feel particularly sorry for the guy who left his car unlocked with the keys in the ignition in the worst part of town at midnight.

306 posted on 07/05/2006 9:07:02 AM PDT by wideawake ("The nation which forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten." - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: Praxeus

How so?


307 posted on 07/05/2006 9:09:27 AM PDT by Frapster (Don't mind me - I'm distracted by the pretty lights.)
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To: sitetest
I'm not usually amenable to additional government regulation, but I think that the whole Enron debacle shows that a significant portion of America needs protecting from themselves.

Which is why Social Security privatization will never fly. A huge percentage of people are simply too dumb to manage their own money.

308 posted on 07/05/2006 9:12:53 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("When the government is invasive, the people are wanting." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: sitetest
Enron isn't the first time that's happened to employees either. I had a friend who worked for Mercury Financial Company when they got caught cooking the books. The employees with all of their retirement in MFC stock took a big hit. She didn't though.
309 posted on 07/05/2006 9:13:51 AM PDT by Jaded (does it really need a sarcasm tag?)
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To: AliVeritas
Thanks for this find AV.

Top Clinton officials lobbied Indian officials to help Enron CEO Kenneth Lay, a frequent visitor to the Clinton White House, obtain Indian state guarantees for the project after it hit snags in 1995.

The article goes on to say he was a frequent guest at the Clinton WH. Now the Winpeka (ms) which already has his death posted doesn't contain one word of his relationship with Clinton or the donations to his campaign - it's all Bush Bush Bush.

310 posted on 07/05/2006 9:14:10 AM PDT by daybreakcoming (TOL)
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To: Jaded

Not everyone had a choice. Those who were royalty holders on minerals property where EOTT, an Enron subsidiary, was the purchaser also lost money.

I was a very small creditor in that situation, so I can imagine what larger holders, companies and individuals, lost. Because I was a small creditor to the BK company, I got a letter that said "good news!" You'll get paid first, without having to go through the class action suit!

They owed me $800, I got a check for $16. Since I didn't even know I had that claim, it's not the reason I have so much animosity towards the people who brought Enron down. The people involved, particularly Fastow, had been doing this for many years - and it finally caught up to them.


311 posted on 07/05/2006 9:14:11 AM PDT by Rte66
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To: ElRushbo

He did the country a favor. Maybe the editor and the publisher of the New York Slims will take the hint.


312 posted on 07/05/2006 9:14:43 AM PDT by hgro
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To: ElRushbo

Karl plugged him unto the heart attack machine.


313 posted on 07/05/2006 9:16:34 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (Make them go home!!)
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To: Maximus of Texas
$11.84?

ROFL!!!

314 posted on 07/05/2006 9:18:01 AM PDT by conservativebabe
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To: ElRushbo

Who knows if it was a massive heart attack or something else. It's still sad. Prayers for his family.


315 posted on 07/05/2006 9:18:41 AM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand; but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc. 10:2)
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To: ElRushbo

There'll be a hot time in Helltown tonight.


316 posted on 07/05/2006 9:19:07 AM PDT by Palladin ("Governor Lynn Swann."...it has a nice ring to it!)
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To: FormerACLUmember
They remind me of the Outer Party Members in "1984," with DU as their Two Minute Hate media.

That's good. Who do you think their Emmanuel Goldstein is in their Two Minute Hate media"?

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"In the course of the novel, the reader never learns if "The Brotherhood" or Goldstein himself actually ever existed, even though he is led to believe that neither Goldstein, nor the "Brotherhood," nor "Big Brother" exists outside of suggestion.

Goldstein is always the subject of the "Two Minutes Hate," a daily, 2-minute period beginning at 11:00 AM at which some image of Goldstein is shown on the telescreen (a one-channel television with surveillance devices in it that can not be turned off except by members of the inner party). It is thought that the opposition to Big Brother—namely, Goldstein—was simply a construction, which ensured that support and devotion towards Big Brother was continuous. It is never revealed whether this is true."

317 posted on 07/05/2006 9:19:51 AM PDT by TVenn
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To: Mr. Jeeves

Dear Mr. Jeeves,

"Which is why Social Security privatization will never fly. A huge percentage of people are simply too dumb to manage their own money."

I disagree.

The federal Thrift Savings Program offers an approximate model of a program that permits workers to accumulate real financial assets for retirement, while putting into place sufficient safeguards to keep them from blowing all their money.

From what I gather, federal workers are restricted to basic mutual fund-like investment options. About the worst damage federal workers typically do to themselves is to invest too conservatively - many put nearly all their money into government bond funds.

However, for young workers, even this will provide a far greater return than Social Security.

If Social Security were to be privatized, it would be appropriate to restrict workers to investing in index funds only (at least until they acquired signficant assets and showed some grasp of investing know-how).


sitetest


318 posted on 07/05/2006 9:20:08 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: Frapster

Yes.. a better question.

How is grace "a license to sin"?


319 posted on 07/05/2006 9:20:38 AM PDT by Praxeus
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To: Mr. Jeeves
Which is why Social Security privatization will never fly. A huge percentage of people are simply too dumb to manage their own money.

Part of the problem is that economics and money management education is all but nonexistent in the American school system today. At times, I wonder if that's deliberate.

320 posted on 07/05/2006 9:21:28 AM PDT by jpl (Victorious warriors win first, then go to war; defeated warriors go to war first, then seek to win.)
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