Posted on 07/05/2006 4:45:11 AM PDT by Jim Noble
Will Rudolph Giuliani be a heavyweight presidential contender in 2008? Some of his enemies evidently think so. They have already begun to raise the alarm.
One early entry is "Giuliani Time," a newly released documentary film that aims to land a pre-emptive blow. The title gives the game away even before the start. "It's Giuliani time" is the phrase said to have been uttered by a New York City policeman as he sodomized Abner Louima, a Haitian immigrant, with a broomstick in a Brooklyn precinct house in 1997. ...
Within the film itself, the director Kevin Keating has lined up a series of talking heads to explain why the two-term mayor of New York is in fact to be regarded as an evil figure. The principal voice is that of Wayne Barrett, a Village Voice reporter and the author of a 1999 book, "Rudy! An Investigative Biography," which argued that city hall under Mr. Giuliani was "a government of, for and by white people." Other witnesses for the prosecution flitting across the screen include some who, in the pre-Giuliani era, helped bring New York to its knees. One of them is the political scientist Frances Fox Piven, whose influence during the mayoralty of John V. Lindsay in the late 1960s contributed to a doubling of the city's welfare roles; another is Norman Siegel, who as head of the New York Civil Liberties Union labored tirelessly to thwart the crime-fighting efforts of the New York City police department; a third is Ron Kuby, the attorney who played a bit part in lighting the long fuse that went off on 9/11 by helping to win a murder acquittal for Sayed Nosair in the 1990 assassination of Rabbi Meir Kahane. (Nosair's apartment contained plans for the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center..)
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Rudy can run on state's rights for abortion, and gun control as well. Each and every state should be able to decide these issues for themselves. By a people vote, not an old man vote.
I thnk state's rights on those issues would be fine, except for partial birth abortion! Also, I don't think he would run on state's rights for those issues. I don't se him getting the nomination. Pro-lifers won't vote for him and pro-lifers are pretty-much the backbone of the republican vote.
Given that "third party" takes 21%+ of the vote even with Hillary! as the alternative, I'd say Rudy is a divider, not a uniter...
States rights for abortion would hopefully take this issue out of national politics so we can vote for the best president for the war on terror.
Problems with the unborn will always be with us worldwide, and it's not a problem that will be solved by laws.
I refuse to believe that Rudy is the only way to get a republican elected. Wait, scratch that. I don't vote republican, I vote conservative. Rudy is not a conservative. I get that he was tough on crme and cleaned up New York, but that doesn't mean he automatically gets a pass on all the oter social issues that he's a leftist on.
Also, I refuse to believe that someone running on a conservative platform, such as pro-life, pro-second amendment (meaning kick those 2 back to the states), pro-marriage amendment, pro-flag, supporive of war on terror candidate can't win. Also, what is Rudy's position on illegal immigration?
I am for a national people vote on illegal immigration, not an old man vote.
You write that like it's a bad thing. HBO documentaries are just not as interesting since Hunts Point was sanitized. /s
After Vietnam, Watergate, and Jimmy Carter, this country was in desperate need of one man. No substitute would have gotten the country out of its downward tail spin. Someone had to stand up first and foremost to the predominant issues of the day. That man had to be Ronald Reagan. The country was fortuitous.
Today only Rudy Giuliani is available to stand up to the predominate issues of today.
He will appoint Justices like Roberts.
He will leave gun issues status quo.
As President, with the responsibility, he will fight illegal immigration the way he fought crime in NYC.
He will not bow to his nemesis the United Nations.
He will fight terror without mercy.
He is what the country desperately needs in this exact time in history.
Or elect a nobody. But then don't expect anything positive.
A man who support partial-birth abortion WILL NOT appoint a justice like John Roberts!
As much as I agree on that, it does matter where the President's views are because he is theoretically in carge of enforcement.
There are alot of things tht states should have the right to vote on, but the courts won't let them, so it's a moot point, unless the courts were stripped of their god-like power.
This is all academic anyway, Rudy will not win the nomination.
I'm out.
I always find these type threads short sited. I think Rudy is electible. But more importantly. When i look, i want the person that is most likely going to have the snot to be hillary.
If a democrat wins, we won't have to worry about abortion because we will all be dead, ask the 3500 in the WTC that are the clinton legacy. I realize its an overdramatization. I dont want to offer suggestions and what could be done, however I hope you all get my point.
There are two definate differences, Democrats view terrorists as a law enforcement action. Republicans view it as what it should be a milatary action.
What is the lesser of 2 evils @ this point and I just wish we would look @ a larger picture and stop using social issues to disqualify candidates. They are all states rights issues. I want the best person for the job that will do what the constitution says, provide for the common defence.
I want a candidate that will beat the democrat. If its rudy so be it.
Giuliani was the number three Justice Dept official in the Reagan administration. He was a US Attorney in the Reagan Administration.
I believe that he will appoint the type of lawyers who were his colleagues and previous hires, which would be of the Roberts and Alito mold.
He won't ask their opinion on abortion but would trust their decisions.
How they would vote on abortion will not be certain. It never is. (If either Roberts or Alito show any inclination not to overturn Roe, it's a dead issue anyway.)
Reagan appointed Kennedy. Bush appointed Souter.
Giuliani would do no worse. I believe better.
And there is more to the Presidency then the roulette wheel that is the Supreme Court. Of which there is never a guarantee.
Great post, my friend.
People must not forget that the Conservative wing of the GOP, for the most part, determines who wins the primaries and definitely determines who wins the caucuses.
Somebody needs to send Rudy to Unity '08. They're gearing up for a serious Third Party run in 2008.
www.unity08.com
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