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Mexico Election Being Watched Here(Mexicans in the US voted for Calderon, 57-34)
WBBM Newsradio 780(CBS), Chicago ^ | July 4, 2006

Posted on 07/04/2006 9:04:51 AM PDT by Dane

Mexico Election Being Watched Here

CHICAGO (WBBM Newsradio 780) -- Mexico faces weeks and possibly months of uncertainty after the leftist presidential candidate called for a recount of election results that showed him trailing his conservative rival by 1 percentage point.

Mexican voters living in the United States overwhelmingly chose Felipe Calderon, the candidate for the National Action Party, or PAN.

According to figures obtained from the Mexican Consulate in Chicago, about 57 percent of Mexican voters living in the United States voted for Calderon, versus about 34 percent for Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador-who represents the Democratic Revolution Party, or PRD.

In the Chicago area, about 4,000 Mexicans cast ballots by mail. The consulate did not have a breakdown of how those ballots were cast.

Emilio Kouri, director of the Center for Mexican Studies at the University of Chicago, says concerns are rising about vote fraud, especially since the 1988 election was full of questions.

In that election, he says one candidate was winning. The computers went down. When they came back online, the numbers were different.

Kouri says that has led many Mexicans to be suspicious of fair voting practices there.

Some Mexicans living in Chicago, who WBBM spoke with, say they're concerned violence will follow the election.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Mexico; Politics/Elections; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: 2000redux; calderon; elections; expatvote; mexico; obrador; obragore
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Before the Buchananites go apesh!t, that's an interesting statistic of how the votes split between chavez clone Obrador and conservative Calderon.

Also notice how the CBS affiliate is trying to incite doubt in the election results by using some Professor's rantings, and yes I know Milton Friedman was a Professor at the University of Chicago, but that was reletively long time ago.

1 posted on 07/04/2006 9:04:56 AM PDT by Dane
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To: Dane

So does this mean the illegals would vote Bush over Kerry 57-34? If so... Very Very Interesting.


2 posted on 07/04/2006 9:11:39 AM PDT by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget (God punishes Conservatives by making them argue with fools.)
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To: Dane
"Mexico faces weeks and possibly months of uncertainty after the leftist presidential candidate called for a recount of election results that showed him trailing his conservative rival by 1 percentage point."

Can any one tell me just what it is with Marxists/Socialists that gives them this dilusional fixation with electoral recounts. My only guess is that they played in too many soccer games as children where no score was kept.

3 posted on 07/04/2006 9:13:45 AM PDT by Desron13 (If you constantly vote between the lesser of two evils then evil is your ultimate destination.)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

Not really if you think about it. Why do you think they want to live here.


4 posted on 07/04/2006 9:15:28 AM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget
No, it means most of the illegals are merely smart enough to know that a Marxist President would further corrupt their country and send their economy further down the Johnny Flusher, resulting in an increased influx of competition for low-wage jobs.

On the other hand, when gringos are paying the tab for free medical care via ERs, food stamps and other handouts, they will vote for the gringo politician who promises them the most.

5 posted on 07/04/2006 9:16:26 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (crime would drop like a sprung trapdoor if we brought back good old-fashioned hangings)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget; Torie
So does this mean the illegals would vote Bush over Kerry 57-34? If so... Very Very Interesting.

That is an interesting correlation.

Here we have a real voting poll with a size of appx. 40,000(number of ballots cast in the US for the Mexican Presidential election, 4,000 in the Chicago area) as opposed to a poll which usually has 1/40th the number(1,000 people polled) as the sample size.

With the sample size of 40,000 your correlation probably has a margin of error of less than 0.5%.

6 posted on 07/04/2006 9:19:02 AM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: Dane

I saw Buchanan many years ago on the cover of `Spy' magazine with his shirt off, and he had real `man breasts', big bazooms. Pat was in definite need of a `bro-zier.
Not impressive, I've never voted for him. ("Tits, Toots. Toots, tits.") He must be a physical nightmare now.
Having said that, the fact that almost 60% of the skulking Mexican cucarachas hiding in our country voted for this Chavez-wannabe must be, well--it's further proof that they will definitely vote for conservatives here, as the administration continues to furiously pimp for them. Now there's sound election strategy. (Wait a second, they *will* for for RINOs & CINOS--my malo, lo siento mucho!)
Gracias for your continued support of capitalism and free enterprise, unwelcome but `hardworking' friends and neighbors from the south!


7 posted on 07/04/2006 9:20:40 AM PDT by tumblindice ("`Racist': anyone beating a liberal in argument.".... A. Coulter)
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Having said that, the fact that almost 60% of the skulking Mexican cucarachas hiding in our country voted for this Chavez-wannabe must be, well-

Uh they voted against the chavez wannabe.

8 posted on 07/04/2006 9:22:57 AM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: Desron13
My only guess is that they played in too many soccer games as children where no score was kept.

One of the most annoying things about this line-of-argument is the fact that, when it comes to wussifying sport, the United States has no equal. We developed the concept, implemented it, and execute it on a daily basis.

Ask yourself, where more likely is an elementary school that bans games such as tag and dodgeball? Here, or Burkina Faso?

9 posted on 07/04/2006 9:23:14 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Dane
LOL. Even when the template doesn't fit, it must fit.
10 posted on 07/04/2006 9:24:21 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
LOL. Even when the template doesn't fit, it must fit

Yep, the tancredo/buchananites are made of the same cloth as the MSM.

11 posted on 07/04/2006 9:26:55 AM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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Can any one tell me just what it is with Marxists/Socialists that gives them this dilusional fixation with electoral recounts.

Think Christine Gregouir, Governor State of Washington.

12 posted on 07/04/2006 9:34:04 AM PDT by Random Access
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What's funny that even the t/b's should agree that the apparent preference for the more "rightist" candidate is a positive development. They could then argue all day to what degree. But they can't even bring themselves to admit the positive.


13 posted on 07/04/2006 9:40:43 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

No, I would wager that in an American election, they'd lean Democratic (though not as heavily as other minority groups). Remember, Vicente Fox is something of a "conservative" in Mexican politics.

Illegal aliens are not stupid. They know the opportunities they've got here, either by working hard or by taking advantage of the welfare state, or a combination of the two. They see American-style capitalism and know that it works a lot better than the corrupt banana republic economy in Meheeco.

I mean, I'm not one that thinks we've got all twelve million Mexicans here just to suck off the teat of the government. I know millions of them work their asses off every day. I'd love to make it easier for controlled legal immigration from Mexico. That doesn't change the simple, unalterable fact--they're here illegally, and they need to be rounded up and punted back across the newly-sealed border. Period. Only then can we think about letting the desirable ones back in.

}:-)4


14 posted on 07/04/2006 9:43:38 AM PDT by Moose4 (Dirka dirka Mohammed jihad.)
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To: 1rudeboy
What's funny that even the t/b's should agree that the apparent preference for the more "rightist" candidate is a positive development. They could then argue all day to what degree. But they can't even bring themselves to admit the positive.

Yep the the t/b's(tancredo/buchanites, great abbv. BTW) were rooting for an Obrador(Obragore) win on pre-Mexican eletion threads on FR.

Hmm, wasn't it pat buchanan himself who said that Gore should have won during the election melee of November 2000.

15 posted on 07/04/2006 9:58:40 AM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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Can any one tell me just what it is with Marxists/Socialists that gives them this dilusional fixation with electoral recounts. My only guess is that they played in too many soccer games as children where no score was kept.

There is a much simpler explanation.

The Left, having lived off of stolen elections for so many decades simply cannot accept the fact that they are not collecting enough illegal votes to win anymore. It is only natural that they would assume the oppostion is "out stealing" them.

16 posted on 07/04/2006 10:04:12 AM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: Dane
"yes I know Milton Friedman was a Professor at the University of Chicago, but that was relatively long time ago."

When Friedman was at the U. of Chicago it was largely a left leaning school (students and faculty). The economics department had a strong free-market component, though it had other philosophies represented, as well. The law school had a remarkably free-market oriented faculty (with a few notable exceptions), despite its largely leftist student body.
17 posted on 07/04/2006 10:07:29 AM PDT by labard1
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To: Dane

Any that think the elections are not rigged in Mexico is smokeing a blunt of denial..


18 posted on 07/04/2006 10:07:56 AM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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To: Dane

What was the story? Something like 11,000,000 immigrants (legal and otherwise) in the U.S. are eligible to vote in Mexico's elections and about 34,000 actually voted.


19 posted on 07/04/2006 10:09:38 AM PDT by Chi-townChief
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To: Dane

The margin of error is more a function of the size of the sample, rather than the size of the population. However, 4000 is a huge sample, and should be very accurate, if and only if Chicago is representative of the larger population.


20 posted on 07/04/2006 10:11:06 AM PDT by Torie
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