[A CA Guy]

but why expose your liver to alcohol if you are not going to get anything out of it? The whole point of drinking alcohol is to get a buzz, as the whole point of drinking caffeine is to get a buzz. I guess we could deny it but we would be lying to ourselves.

Maybe for you the whole point of alcohol and some other stuff is to get a buzz, but many just have a bit of wine with dinner for their health since it is a blood thinner and has other medical purposes on the light use side.

Does caffeine give you a buzz? That is also a new one to me. How much of that do you possibly have to take to get a buzz? I know it can keep you awake at night and maybe get you more alert, but a buzz?

[microgood]

Maybe for you the whole point of alcohol and some other stuff is to get a buzz, but many just have a bit of wine with dinner for their health since it is a blood thinner and has other medical purposes on the light use side.

I must be hanging out with the wrong crowd.

Does caffeine give you a buzz? That is also a new one to me.

The kind I do does. On my way to Montana I was getting tired after a meal. Stopped and got a French-Vanilla Cappucino and had trouble slowing down even at Midnight. Do not drink them alot but they buzz me when I do. For me it is more than just being more alert.

[Know your rights]

many just have a bit of wine with dinner for their health since it is a blood thinner and has other medical purposes on the light use side.

So because 1% (if that) of alcohol consumption is for nonrecreational purposes, all alcohol consumption should be legal for adults? What is the principle underlying that strange conclusion? Or do you just make this stuff up as you go?