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(California) State Supreme Court:
santa cruz sentinel ^ | June 30, 2006 | By GENEVIEVE BOOKWALTER

Posted on 07/02/2006 8:57:03 AM PDT by sasquatch

June 30, 2006

About half the timber land in Santa Cruz County will remain off limits to loggers after a ruling by the California Supreme Court on Thursday.

The 4-3 decision in favor of Santa Cruz County over Davenport-based Big Creek Lumber grants a local government the power to restrict timber operations to certain areas. Historically, logging was under the purview of the state; the court's ruling validates Santa Cruz County's 7-year-old law regulating where trees can and can't be logged.

(Excerpt) Read more at santacruzsentinel.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; Miscellaneous; US: California; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: corruption; environment; govwatch; landuse; propertyrights; recusal
Folks, we lost. On reason we lost is that two of the four justices that went against us were involved in a case in San Mateo County years earlier that was the basis for this suit. We won our 'Santa Cruz' case decision on all counts at the 6th Appeals Court. That established the conflicting decision with San Mateo that set the stage to go to the Supreme Court. We asked that these two judges recuse themselves after we learned that they were on 'the panel'. Does anyone here know of any case law where lack of recusal has resulted in change? We have 13 more days to file...
1 posted on 07/02/2006 8:57:05 AM PDT by sasquatch
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To: sasquatch

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2 posted on 07/02/2006 9:00:59 AM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: sasquatch
Again anti-American Democrats violate the federal Constitution. Is it not a shame that the court does not know enough, or have an IQ high enough, to read the supreme law of the land and understand what it says?
3 posted on 07/02/2006 9:52:56 AM PDT by YOUGOTIT
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To: freepatriot32
Land rights bump.
4 posted on 07/02/2006 10:47:29 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: sasquatch

Actually, in our county, the decision is a win. Siskiyou County has chosen not to restrict logging. As I understand it, the decision reaffirms the County's right to regulate land use, including timber harvest. We have intentionally chosen, no regulation.

Of course, this does not affect all the state specialty regulatory layers of regulation for water quality, impacts on endangered species and fish and wildlife (stream crossings, etc.)


5 posted on 07/02/2006 12:11:08 PM PDT by marsh2
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To: marsh2

I think the argument developed by Mr. Raffaelly went like this ---- state Timber Production Zones or TPZ (Z'Berg Nedgedley) were an off shoot of the Williamson Act, where the farmer agrees by long term (20-40 year contract) to place his land in a state restricted use open space non-development zone in exchange for a property tax break.

Most commercial lands were automatically placed in TPZ, some requested to be placed in TPZ. This defers taxes on the value of timber inventory until harvest. Initially, in exchange, the timber owner limited use to one residence and manages the land for timber production.

Like the Williamson Act, it takes 20 years to get out of TPZ unless prematurely transferring out is in the public interest.

Mr. Rafaelly's argument was that through this state zoning, the Board of Forestry began to regulate land use on TPZ lands. His argument was that the state Board of Forestry regulations were a jurisdiction attached only to this zoning and did not reach non TPZ lands, which were locally zoned for use and subject to local regulations.

Of course, the state has the other legitimate jurisdictions I mentioned over water quality and fish and wildlife.

In some cases, like Siskiyou, it might be better to remove timber lands from TPZ and the reach of a large portion of restrictive state regulation.


6 posted on 07/02/2006 12:55:41 PM PDT by marsh2
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To: marsh2
In some cases, like Siskiyou, it might be better to remove timber lands from TPZ

It's just a matter of time. Siskiyou County has the seeds planted. The fact that there are no mills left producing dimensional lumber speaks volumes. The cost to haul logs will be the end.
7 posted on 07/02/2006 2:19:06 PM PDT by sasquatch
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To: marsh2
in our county, the decision is a win

Yea right. The landowner looses; County wins. Sorry, I don't buy it.
8 posted on 07/02/2006 2:40:41 PM PDT by sasquatch
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To: marsh2
Like the Williamson Act, it takes 20 years to get out of TPZ unless prematurely transferring out is in the public interest.

I thought it was 10 years. BTW, Santa Cruz County considered moving my Dad's property out of TPZ in the public interest and turn it in to a land fill. ie, a dump.
9 posted on 07/02/2006 3:02:54 PM PDT by sasquatch
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To: sasquatch

Apparently Williamson Act can be either - 10 0r 20 (Farmland Security Zone) http://www.co.humboldt.ca.us/planning/Williamson%20Act/WA%202005%20revisions/WA_BROC.pdf
TPZ is 10 http://www.timbertax.org/statetaxes/states/proptax/california.asp
Both are automatically renewed each year unless the owner indicates they wish to get out of the contract/zone.

I don't see why Roseberg, Fruit Growers and Timber Products would not prefer to be exempt from the Forest Practices Act. As I said, we don't have any regulations on the books for harvest and have voted down grading ordinances, viewshed ordinances, county habitat conservation ordinances and the like when presented to us. Our population, except for the south around Mt. Shasta, does not like new regulations.


10 posted on 07/02/2006 4:50:27 PM PDT by marsh2
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To: marsh2
I don't see why Roseberg, Fruit Growers and Timber Products would not prefer to be exempt from the Forest Practices Act. I don't understand this statement.

Consider this: Felice Pace is elected the new supervisor for district 5. The Board realizes that they can use zoning to control any use of land. Your Board may well be looking after the best interests of the property owners of the county. I can tell you with certainty that the supervisors of Santa Cruz are not. A decision of the big house covers all. If you don't see what's coming, your in trouble. No, we're in trouble. It's just a matter of time.
11 posted on 07/02/2006 8:12:42 PM PDT by sasquatch
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To: sasquatch

I know that the current state regulations are about as unbearable as they can get. The cost of harvest in Oregon is a mere fraction of what it is in California. I know FG has been trying to divest its lands here because it can't harvest anything because of the spotted owl and coho salmon, yet Oregon also has these species and seems to manage it quite nicely.

But I see what you mean about Felice, cough cough, choke choke. Each time we have an election, we hold our breath that we will get someone really liberal elected and end up with big Board fights.


12 posted on 07/03/2006 3:09:44 AM PDT by marsh2
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To: marsh2
Each time we have an election, we hold our breath that we will get someone really liberal elected and end up with big Board fights.

Fast forward again...
Felice's now one of the more conservative members of the board...There's almost always agreement.
That's why we took this thing to the CA Supreme Court.
13 posted on 07/03/2006 7:19:23 AM PDT by sasquatch
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