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Giving ‘terrorists’ exactly what they want [barfer]
Idiot Acharonot ^ | July 1, 2006 | Ray "Made From 100% Stupid" Hanania

Posted on 07/01/2006 8:47:01 PM PDT by Alouette

Giving ‘terrorists’ exactly what they want

No civilized nation starves people to death because extremists committed violent acts

This is exactly what “the terrorists” want.

I don’t need to identify who is and who isn’t a terrorist in this fight. It’s pretty clear to both sides.

But the real issue is the higher principle that seems orphaned high above the carnage below: Responding to violence with violence is a form of terrorism, and failing to pursue peace despite the violence is also terrorism, too.

You can’t look at this as a conflict that started when Palestinians kidnapped Israeli “teenager” soldier Gilad Shalit and killed two other Israeli soldiers when they successfully destroyed an Israeli tank.

That they took out a tank should, if I were Israeli, concern me. But I’m not.

The fact is the violence has been ongoing by both sides since forever. And both sides are to blame for the carnage.

Palestinians can’t seem to control their fanatics and extremists, and their terrorism continues in the form of Qassam rockets being fired, often unprovoked, across the border at Israel.

They are not very good, but they must be frightening.

Israelis can’t seem to control their fanatics and extremists, and their terrorism continues in the form of the occupation and all its manifestations: The wall, the confiscation of land, the expulsion of civilians from their homes, the killings of civilians when targeting alleged criminals.

'You are a traitor'

Israelis’ bigger problem is the terrorism of “collective punishment.”

No civilized nation starves a people to death simply because some extremists have committed an act of violence.

But Israel does and is trying to starve the Palestinians to death.

And the Palestinians are just as much to blame, too. But there is a significant difference that cannot be forgotten, although it cannot be used as an excuse, either.

Israel has the power and Israelis are the occupiers. The Palestinians are being occupied and do not have the power. In an imbalance of this nature, emotion reigns, reason is thrown out the window, and we have what we now have: Continued violence that not even the wall can stop.

For all of the complaints by Palestinians of collective punishment, so few have stood up to denounce the violence against Israeli civilians. They haven’t done enough to advocate for peace.

They love to be victims. And they have an entire army of fanatics who scream like old ladies dressed in black obayas undulating at funerals. This contingent of fanatics is the guardian of hate.

“How can you support compromise when the Israelis are murdering our people?” one “Palestinian” writer wrote me recently. “You are a traitor.”

Right.

The moral answer

You are the traitor when you advocate for violence and confrontation and refuse to compromise. You are the traitor when you applaud the kidnapping of Israeli soldiers or the murder of Israeli civilians. You are the traitor when, in the face of Israeli war crimes, you support Palestinian war crimes in response.

Neither side has the moral ground in this conflict.

Israel’s government clearly has decided to impose a “peace” that is not a peace at all and that will only fuel more conflict. Israel will give the Palestinian extremists exactly what they want, a reason to fight back.

And you are not going to kill those Palestinians, Israel. They’ll just keep coming, and coming and coming until one day, they just might win the way you won, by force of arms, injustice and violence.

Of course, there is always the one solution. The only solution.

Too bad we don’t have Palestinian or Israeli leaders who have the courage to stand up and speak in its defense.

Israel can define a fair and just solution for the Palestinians that will result in a real Palestinian State and that includes a sharing of Jerusalem and that also addresses the tragedy of the Palestinian refugees.

Palestinians can accept that just and fair offer and then start using it to push down the extremists who have nourished themselves on the failure of the peace process.

Palestinians must have faith in peace, even when the Israeli government acts as a terrorist state, as it is now doing. Because the imbalance demands that it be so. The fact that they are the occupied means that they must pursue a peaceful compromise even in the face of brutal Israeli government violence.

That is the moral answer.

So too for the Israelis.

'Start acting like human beings'

They have the upper hand and the power. That means that in the face of the kidnapping of the Israeli soldier, the moral response is to find a way out of the violence not by using more violence but through peaceful negotiations.

Saying you will not negotiate with terrorists is condemning all Palestinians as terrorists, and they are not.

But if you continue to say that long enough, as Israel’s governments have, then it just might one day come true.

And then, there is no hope for either side.

There will be more violence, more kidnappings, more killings, more collective punishment, more terrorism and more suffering on both sides.

There might be something else, if Palestinians and Israelis can, for once, stop acting like Palestinians and Israelis, and start acting like human beings.

That would be refreshing. For once in this sick tragedy called a conflict.

Ray Hanania is an award winning Palestinian columnist, author and satirist. He can be reached at www.hanania.com .


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: boohoo; gaza; israel; lies; snivel; terror; violence; whine
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1 posted on 07/01/2006 8:47:05 PM PDT by Alouette
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2 posted on 07/01/2006 8:47:39 PM PDT by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 29-34)
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Ray Hanania is an award winning Palestinian columnist, author and satirist.




And this was apparently some of his satire.


3 posted on 07/01/2006 8:53:28 PM PDT by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: Alouette
The only solution that would satisfy the Arabs is Israel's disappearance. The Jewish State is unlikely to oblige them.

(The Palestinian terrorist regime is the crisis and Israel's fist is the answer.)

4 posted on 07/01/2006 8:59:31 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

Israel is more likely to be courteous and invite them to go first.


5 posted on 07/01/2006 9:01:00 PM PDT by RichInOC (KATZ: HOW ARE YOU GENTLEMEN!! DESTRUCTION ARE ON THE WAY TO YOU. HA HA HA HA....)
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To: Alouette

"Idiot Acharanot" has again earned its nickname by giving this Ray Hanania nitwit a medium to spread his drivel.


6 posted on 07/01/2006 9:15:27 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: Alouette

Palestinians can’t seem to control their fanatics and extremists

Bwhahahaah!
My vote for clueless understatement of the Year.


7 posted on 07/01/2006 9:17:18 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Alouette

My dream of meeting the BEM (Booger Eating Moron) in person...

Me: Hi there! (Hard shot right cross to the nose, followed by a left uppercut, knocking him down.

Him: Hey! Why did you hit me?!?!?

Me: Oh, sorry about that... (I extend my hand to help him up). I thought you were someone else. Are you OK?

Him: I don't think so. You broke my nose!

Me: Really? I'm so sorry about that (followed by a quick left hook, knocking him down again).

Him: (sobbing and bleeding on the ground) Why do you keep hitting me! I'm going to kill you!!!!

Me: What! Don't contribute to the cycle of violence! Only by sitting there while I beat the crap out of you can peace be achieved!

Mark


9 posted on 07/01/2006 9:28:03 PM PDT by MarkL (When Kaylee says "No power in the `verse can stop me," it's cute. When River says it, it's scary!)
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To: Alouette
Who exactly is starving the Palestinian children, the Israelis or the Palestinians who:

can’t seem to control their fanatics and extremists (or more likely have no desire do do anything except encourage, support and idolize them).

10 posted on 07/01/2006 9:36:46 PM PDT by JimSEA (America cannot have an exit strategy from the world.)
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To: Alouette

The Limbaugh Doctrine still applies: Peace only happens when one side is soundly defeated. As long as the Palestinians (or their masters) think they have a chance to "win" (whatever that means to them), there will be no peace.


11 posted on 07/01/2006 10:36:46 PM PDT by AZLiberty (Creating the <a href="http://clinton.senate.gov">straddle</a> Google bomb one post at a time.)
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To: Alouette
This sounds like appeasement.Words of wisdom from a man who never appeased the enemy:

An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. " -- Winston Churchill

12 posted on 07/01/2006 11:39:26 PM PDT by garbageseeker (It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog.”Samuel Clemmens)
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To: Alouette

failing to pursue peace despite the violence is also terrorism

What Jerk wrote this? Let them fly planes into your buildings and kill 3000 people and then ask them,
"can we please have peace?" That'll work.


13 posted on 07/01/2006 11:42:08 PM PDT by garylmoore (Faith is the assurance of things unseen.)
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To: doug from upland
Ray Hanania is an award whining Palestinian communist, author and retard.
14 posted on 07/02/2006 7:23:03 AM PDT by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 29-34)
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To: JimSEA
Who exactly is starving the Palestinian children

Nobody. They all seem quite well fed in all the pictures of them at car swarms and as "human shields" for gun-toting and rocket launching "militants"

15 posted on 07/02/2006 7:26:01 AM PDT by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 29-34)
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To: Alouette

Thanks for correcting the typos.


16 posted on 07/02/2006 7:43:49 AM PDT by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: AZLiberty
As an Yisraeli I am convinced that to solve this problem it will take the total erasure of the Palis! No mercy, no quarter, eliminate. Then no later flare ups are possible.
17 posted on 07/02/2006 7:47:03 AM PDT by Lewite (Praise YAHWEH and Proclaim His Wonderful Name! Islam, the end time Beast-the harlot of Babylon.)
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To: Alouette

Israel left greenhouses in Gaza so Palies could grow fruits and vegetables. Instead, they smashed the greenhouses. They're victims because victimhood pays dividends. Notice that the Arab world has done little to help them. Why? Because that's the way it's always been, and if Palestinians yell and scream long enough, the west will support them as they did Arafat. Except for Israel, the entire region needs a human genome boost.


18 posted on 07/02/2006 7:48:18 AM PDT by hershey
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To: tet68
Palestinians can’t seem to control their fanatics and extremists

Control them? They elected them! Sigh...

19 posted on 07/02/2006 9:02:26 AM PDT by rake (Okinawa!)
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To: hershey
Starving Palestinians eat Israeli flag to survive:


20 posted on 07/02/2006 12:44:24 PM PDT by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 35-38)
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