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Up to 61 million Immigrants Might Flow into U.S. Under Proposed Reform
Rocky Mountain News ^ | July 1, 2006 | Robert Rector

Posted on 07/01/2006 7:15:40 AM PDT by kellynla

Think the immigration debate is mainly about giving amnesty to the 10 million illegals already here? Think again. Amnesty is a drop in the bucket. The real issue is the staggering increase in legal immigration hidden in the Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act, recently passed in the Senate. By a ratio of about 4-1, U.S. voters would prefer less immigration, not more. But the Senate bill would do just the opposite. The original bill would have allowed as many as 100 million people to legally immigrate to the United States over the next 20 years. We're talking about a seismic shift of unprecedented proportions.

Facing criticism, the Senate has amended the bill - which now would allow "only" 61 million new immigrants. That still more than doubles the current legal immigration rate, from 1 million a year now to 2.5 million.

Current law would let 19 million legal immigrants enter the United States over the next 20 years; the Senate immigration bill would add an extra 42 million.

Why such extraordinary growth? Consider how the new law would work.

Under the Senate bill, immigrants could enter or attain lawful status within the country through nine channels. In each channel, immigrants would gain permanent residence and the right to become citizens:

(Excerpt) Read more at rockymountainnews.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: aliens; borderlessness; employerswhocheat; givemecheaplabor; illegals; iloveillegals; iwantcheaplabor; knownothing; rant; sameoldsameold; teardownthatwall; thebordersucks; whine
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To: tertiary01; MNJohnnie
To: MNJohnnie You seem to be such an authority. You tell us the numbers.

MNJohnnie would gladly tell you these numbers on Tuesday if you agree with his point today.

41 posted on 07/01/2006 8:38:47 AM PDT by A. Pole (GWB believes that "guest worker" program will satisfy economy needs for cheap and plentiful labour.)
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To: AmericaUnited
"I guess they realized that the 200 million number "

"They"?
Who are these "they" who claimed here on FR that we are going to get 200 million illegals from Mexico again?
I don't recall it.
But hey, LaRaza is all seeing, so maybe you'll help me out in that regard?
42 posted on 07/01/2006 8:39:26 AM PDT by Jameison
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To: L98Fiero

Why are you assuming they'd all come from Mexico? Central/South America are quite populous, and are Africa, Pakistan, India, etc. This open invitation is to the entire third world, not just Mexico.


43 posted on 07/01/2006 8:41:00 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Mr. Mojo
" 1) "The crime rate among the illegal alien population is lower than that of the American population at large."

2) "Illegal border crossing have been going down every year since 2000."

TS is now a bought and paid for sock puppet. On one hand you have our government stating they don't know how many illegals are in country...then they blast out this liquid fecal matter with their latest talking head.
44 posted on 07/01/2006 8:42:00 AM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: L98Fiero

the Senate bill would "allow" 61 million over the NEXT 20 YEARS...
and there are illegals from all over the world in America, not just ol' Mexico...


45 posted on 07/01/2006 8:46:43 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: Mr. Mojo

Tony's an idiot.


46 posted on 07/01/2006 8:47:53 AM PDT by Marine Inspector (Government is not the solution to our problem; Government is the problem)
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To: AmericaUnited
>>>Ok. We start with 9, then went to 11, then went to 16, then 20, then 48, then 89 then 96 then 100 then 200 and now back to 61

>I guess they realized that the 200 million number was a bit over the top since the population of Mexico is only 107 million. I would hate to be a mindless boob that always had to start barking at the moon when manipulators threw out "processed" red-meat.

What bunch of idiotic statements! Hello, Rector is obviously talking about immigrants from all over the world!! From Ghana to Bangladesh, from Burma to Egypt, from Peru to Turkey. Pull your heads out of your a**es. Mexico is obviously not the only country in the world from which we take immigrants.

47 posted on 07/01/2006 8:55:42 AM PDT by Cyropaedia ("Virtue cannot separate itself from reality without becoming a principal of evil...".)
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To: Jameison
But hey, LaRaza is all seeing, so maybe you'll help me out in that regard?

Certainly. I'm dispatching a green+white helicopter to hover over your house right now.

48 posted on 07/01/2006 9:01:16 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: L98Fiero
Does anybody realize that is about 60% of Mexico's entire population?

You forget about entire Latin America. And whoever else wishes to walk through southern border.

49 posted on 07/01/2006 9:01:44 AM PDT by A. Pole (GWB believes that "guest worker" program will satisfy economy needs for cheap and plentiful labour.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

It is that simple, but so few can see it coming.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Well, we ain't so smart down at the sawmill but ain't it dang nigh a' accomplished fact a'ready?


50 posted on 07/01/2006 9:14:30 AM PDT by RipSawyer (Does anybody still believe this is a free country?)
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To: dennisw

All other wages will plummet

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Well, shucks, at air's a'done been goin' on aroun' heer!

(If I have to go back to a plantation economy I may as well go back to the speech pattern of a muleskinner.)


51 posted on 07/01/2006 9:18:03 AM PDT by RipSawyer (Does anybody still believe this is a free country?)
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To: ncountylee
And the country was founded with a few million citizens. As a percentage, while the proportion of immigrants to natives is getting close, the largest percentage of immigrants as part of the population was in the 1800's when German, Irish, Italian, etc. immigrants came because of famine (Ireland and Germany, to some extent) and as political refugees after the Central European revolutions of 1848.

However, to note, the second largest nonEnglish language (not including ebonics) after Spanish is German. And the Germans largely came over a century ago, and could easily blend in and assimilate into the majority society (they looked similar).

This seems to suggest that the quota system should be reconsidered, but if so, they should try to not make it racist. With a sizeable but sufficient amount of people from a country, they can be assimilated into American society more easily if making media and communities of their ethnicity is more difficult. They can be encouraged/pressured to adopt American culture.

52 posted on 07/01/2006 9:22:55 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( http://www.answersingenesis.org)
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To: Wolfie
Gotta destroy the middle class. Then they'll stop keeping an eye on our leaders cuz they're too busy trying to scrape by.

***BINGO***, we've got a winner!

53 posted on 07/01/2006 9:24:54 AM PDT by demkicker (democrats and terrorists are intimate bedfellows)
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To: WayneM; Dane; sinkspur; Texasforever
WayneM, just letting them know.

Assimilation is key. As things are, American society generally is not trying hard enough to assimilate Latinos (or Asians, Europeans, Africans, etc.), as multiculturalism has to some degree taken hold. Also, if a group of people from one country are able to settle into a large enough community, they could foster poor assimilation because they could create an environment in which they would not have to necessarily use English or interact with many other Americans (as the descendants of these immigrants would be Americans, hence other). This could happen even though these immigrants could not have any strong animosity toward American society and culture, but have the crutch of their old culture and society to lean on.

54 posted on 07/01/2006 9:30:15 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( http://www.answersingenesis.org)
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To: kellynla
The democrats see this for what it is--the 'mother lode' of future democratic votes!!

This additional immigrant vote (predominently Hispanic) will be a huge boost to democratic fortunes in future elections.

55 posted on 07/01/2006 9:34:23 AM PDT by stockstrader
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To: Jane Austen
There has always been immigration to the United States, and the United States is powerful in many ways because of that fact.

immigration should be more evenly distributed by country, though. Too many from one country (including, hypothetically to United Kingdom or Canada or other countries of the Anglosphere) could lead to the decline of the nation. Small, assimilable amounts of people from various countries could be relatively easy to absorb into American society.

56 posted on 07/01/2006 9:37:13 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( http://www.answersingenesis.org)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu
With very few humanitarian exceptions, all legal immigration should be restricted to those who can most contribute to the needs of the US. Education and job skills are far more important than the country of origin. Birth right citizenship should be eliminated completely.

After the borders are under control and employer sanctions proven to be effective, a temporary guest worker program with no possibility of permanent status should also be explored.

57 posted on 07/01/2006 9:37:28 AM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: kellynla

America continues its demographic suicide.

I always said that we needed to solve our illegal immigration problem before we begin to have a national discussion about the proper levels of legal immigration.

I was wrong. The OBL is making it necessary to begin that discussion sooner rather than later.


58 posted on 07/01/2006 9:41:15 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: clawrence3; freedumb2003

it's generally rude to insult a person behind their back (figuratively, in this case).


59 posted on 07/01/2006 9:41:19 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( http://www.answersingenesis.org)
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To: kellynla
Amnesty is a drop in the bucket. The real issue is the staggering increase in legal immigration hidden in the Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act, recently passed in the Senate.

But I thought we were only against illegal immigration and amnesty and that we were for legal immigration.

(BTW I'm not for increases in legal immigration so don't anybody ping me and say that I am, based on my above statement.)

60 posted on 07/01/2006 9:51:44 AM PDT by FreeReign
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