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Up to 61 million Immigrants Might Flow into U.S. Under Proposed Reform
Rocky Mountain News ^ | July 1, 2006 | Robert Rector

Posted on 07/01/2006 7:15:40 AM PDT by kellynla

Think the immigration debate is mainly about giving amnesty to the 10 million illegals already here? Think again. Amnesty is a drop in the bucket. The real issue is the staggering increase in legal immigration hidden in the Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act, recently passed in the Senate. By a ratio of about 4-1, U.S. voters would prefer less immigration, not more. But the Senate bill would do just the opposite. The original bill would have allowed as many as 100 million people to legally immigrate to the United States over the next 20 years. We're talking about a seismic shift of unprecedented proportions.

Facing criticism, the Senate has amended the bill - which now would allow "only" 61 million new immigrants. That still more than doubles the current legal immigration rate, from 1 million a year now to 2.5 million.

Current law would let 19 million legal immigrants enter the United States over the next 20 years; the Senate immigration bill would add an extra 42 million.

Why such extraordinary growth? Consider how the new law would work.

Under the Senate bill, immigrants could enter or attain lawful status within the country through nine channels. In each channel, immigrants would gain permanent residence and the right to become citizens:

(Excerpt) Read more at rockymountainnews.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: aliens; borderlessness; employerswhocheat; givemecheaplabor; illegals; iloveillegals; iwantcheaplabor; knownothing; rant; sameoldsameold; teardownthatwall; thebordersucks; whine
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To: Texasforever
"LMAO and the Ya'll blamed the Utah loss on the same calls made from Bush"

I did?
News to me.
141 posted on 07/01/2006 2:27:04 PM PDT by Jameison
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To: Texasforever

" Once again your complete lack of shame shines through."

Will you excuse me while I laugh?


142 posted on 07/01/2006 2:28:28 PM PDT by Jameison
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To: Jameison

Then if the shoe doesn't fit don't wear it but that is what the sock puppets on the Utah threads were saying.


143 posted on 07/01/2006 2:28:49 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: Texasforever
"Then if the shoe doesn't fit don't wear it but that is what the sock puppets on the Utah threads were saying."

I put what I am saying in post # 139.
So why avoid that and quote stuff from somewhere else that has nothing to do with me?
144 posted on 07/01/2006 2:31:31 PM PDT by Jameison
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To: Jameison

Then why didn't the Minutemen candidate sweep the field?


145 posted on 07/01/2006 2:32:48 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: Texasforever
"Then why didn't the Minutemen candidate sweep the field?"

Bilbray was strong enough on immigration, so why vote for someone else and get the RATS candidate elected instead, like Ross Perot did for BJ Klinton?
We want more Republican seats in the congress.
146 posted on 07/01/2006 2:35:52 PM PDT by Jameison
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To: Jameison
We want more Republican seats in the congress.

Funny that is exactly what Bush wants. He backed a guy that, when he won, went on radio and crowed that he had beaten Bush's desires for "open borders". Nice guy huh? Bush shows class borderbots show crass. As I said no sense of shame.

147 posted on 07/01/2006 2:39:44 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: kellynla
Take Rector's numbers and multiply them!

American culture would never survive a rapid import of 61 million mainly Spanish speaking Central Americans. (total more than 120 million with those already here today)

In fact, my main objection to this entire suicidal amnesty proposal is that America will face the real possibility of a balkanized lifestyle at best, and civil war at worst as the millions of poor uneducated suddenly vote into office their favorite socialist/communist provaketeur (such as is occurring in Venezuela and Bolivia and Mexico).

I dont believe that alqaeda terrorists will slip across our southern border (as Hannity harps about)as they can already get here easily with normal visa manipulations.

The thing that keeps America great NOW is that all ethnicities (the Pols, Brits, Dutch, Af. Amer., German, French, Latino) have equilibrium.

148 posted on 07/01/2006 2:44:41 PM PDT by Edit35
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To: Texasforever
"Funny that is exactly what Bush wants. He backed a guy that, when he won, went on radio and crowed that he had beaten Bush's desires for "open borders"."

The President as head of the party backs incumbents.
He even backed Arlene Specter, who constantly attacks the President and his policies.
Even Lincoln Cafee is getting backing from the Republican Party for crying out loud.


But conservatives don't have to back people like that.
And Bilbray was right.
I back President Bush, but his immigration policy is rubbish.
Bilbray won a strong anti-open borders, strong immigration enforcement platform.
149 posted on 07/01/2006 2:48:16 PM PDT by Jameison
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To: Jameison
Right unlike the king rat Tancredo Bush wants to keep the democrats from power, Tancredo ONLY wants to defeat those that disagree with him. He NEVER takes on liberals he goes after his fellow conservatives like Cannon, Pence and Delay. The other Tancredo sock puppets ONLY want those that bow down to them and threaten to support 3rd parties if they don't get their way even if it means throwing congress to the democrats.
150 posted on 07/01/2006 2:53:00 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: kellynla

"Senators are a never-ending source of amusement, amazement, and discouragement."
-- Will Rogers


151 posted on 07/01/2006 3:21:43 PM PDT by garbageseeker (It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog.ā€¯Samuel Clemmens)
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To: kellynla

Probably close to 24 million illegals here already and they aren't going home anytime soon. That superhighway planned from Mexico through Kansas (whether you like it or not), will simplify smuggling millions more into the US. The elites feel a third world Mexico and points south is harmful to the US. We have to force change, prosperity, jobs, literacy, etc. since they've shown that they won't or can't change on their own. How's that for US meddling. So we swallow up Mexico and eventually everyone else in the hemisphere as they swarm over the border and enter the US mainstream. They hope American culture and values, capitalism, entrepreneurship is catching, like measles. A rising tide lifts all boats, etc..

But nobody asked the American people if they were in favor of this, no national conversation about it, not a peep. GW just told Fox to send the unwanted north. Broken borders in wartime is ludicrous and no accident. What's gone on is certainly illegal, unconstitutional, and shameful. We encouraged Mexico's ethnic cleansing on a monumental scale and in the process depopulated that country. Not to mention Central and Southern America...Brazilians, Guatemalans, Costa Ricans, and Chinese for heaven sakes. Ecuadorans arrested, working illegally on an army base. The list is endless. Diseases we'd wiped out now coming over the border.

I had what passed for a conversation about this with two Liberals the other day, but once I pointed out where they're wrong, they went ballistic. Rude, really angry...and stupid. They were writing a piece for NPR on "I believe". It wasn't supposed to be a religious diatribe (God forbid, not on NPR!). Something for the Fourth. So they'd come up with several paragraphs blaming the US for countless atrocities, war crimes, endless evils. Nothing specific, though. Just a broad brush smear of hate. Then the essay did a one-eighty and described two families who'd adopted Russian children. (The heartwarming ending.) No logic. Why would it be good to bring Russian children, no matter how wretched their circumstances, to the center of all evil? Well, that didn't matter. Broken borders didn't matter, either. Twenty odd million illegals were here. We should all learn Spanish and adapt ourselves to their needs. (And as soon as the dems retake the White House, GW gets impeached.) Liberals are crazy.


152 posted on 07/01/2006 3:51:31 PM PDT by hershey
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To: L98Fiero

They took a poll in Mexico not long ago and found that one quarter of the population had already left. That's the lowest class, the native Indian Mexican -- without education, jobs, prospects, etc., the ones Fox and the rest of the elites wanted to get rid of. In effect, ethnic cleansing. Half of those remaining...that's the middle class...are so disgusted with corruption and violence that they're thinking of heading north. Whole villages are empty, deserted. We're depopulating Mexico.


153 posted on 07/01/2006 3:57:33 PM PDT by hershey
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To: Cyropaedia

Eighty-five per-cent of the illegals are from Mexico, however.


154 posted on 07/01/2006 3:59:09 PM PDT by hershey
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To: Texasforever
"Right unlike the king rat Tancredo Bush wants to keep the democrats from power, Tancredo ONLY wants to defeat those that disagree with him."


Nope.
Primaries are part and parcel of the democratic process in this country.
It's perfectly fine for people to back different candidates during primaries.
The great patriot Tom Tancredo is free to back strongly anti-illegals candidates, same as other Republicans can back who they like.

On the other hand, after a candidate is elected as the Republican candidate, Replulbicans unit behind that candidate, aginst the RATS.
This is not a dictatorship.
155 posted on 07/01/2006 4:06:52 PM PDT by Jameison
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To: AmericaUnited
Consult does not equal permission

That's what you call manufacturing "red-meat", to be thrown at all the mindless moon-barkers. They then will rant, rave, bark up a storm all about something that is a made up lie/distortion. Their masters will then sit back and LAUGH at what a bunch of easily controlled robotons they all are.

Yep.

156 posted on 07/01/2006 4:10:37 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: MNJohnnie

Wait until small town America has to foot the bill for educating the children of illegals. Then they're visible, right there in your community. Your tax dollars educating them, including welfare, medical, jobs. It's not just a border states problem anymore. The numbers are huge and they're in every state in the union except possible Hawaii. And wait until part two of the North American Union plan kicks in. That's when we fix Mexico's infrastructure....education, roads, whatever, soup to nuts, on our dime...on their terms. Whatever they need to produce a first world society. They're already talking about this on TV as if it's a done deal.


157 posted on 07/01/2006 4:11:20 PM PDT by hershey
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To: hershey

A fefw months ago, Fox suggested the we 'invest' in rebuilding Mexico's infrastructure so Mexicans will want to return home. Now they're talking about it on TV as if it's already in the pipeline.


158 posted on 07/01/2006 4:18:35 PM PDT by hershey
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To: FreeReign

As articulate as you are, I fear interpreting legislative language is not your strong point. Thank heaven you will not be one of the ones negotiating the wall with Mehico.


160 posted on 07/01/2006 4:34:19 PM PDT by Liz (The US Constitution is intended to protect the people from the government.)
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