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To: Ichneumon
Do you realize how vapid an "argument" that is?

No. It seems a perfectly valid argument to me. However, since you disagree, I doubt we have enough of a common basis on which to "argue" the point. You'll probably consider my arguments stupid so let's just not bother.

Shalom.

142 posted on 07/01/2006 1:19:21 PM PDT by ArGee (The Ring must not be allowed to fall into Hillary's hands!)
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To: ArGee
No. It seems a perfectly valid argument to me. However, since you disagree, I doubt we have enough of a common basis on which to "argue" the point. You'll probably consider my arguments stupid so let's just not bother.

I don't have a problem with the part of the argument that says, "we can do nuclear power more safely than the Soviets did". The part I'm saying isn't valid is the "it could have been worse" part. You could make that irrelevant point about *anything*. "Well, Pearl Harbor could have been worse." "Well, 9/11 could have been worse." "Well, the Nazi genocide could have been worse." "Well, having your daughter raped and murdered and eaten could have been worse." Yeah, so? This adds absolutely nothing to any argument for or against nuclear power. The only thing it does is let her play sleight-of-hand and make the disaster seem "better" somehow, when thousands of dead is still thousands of dead, you can't sugar-coat that by chirping, "well, hey, we were worried there were going to be a lot more corpses!" That's about as vapid as it gets, and constitutes no kind of "argument" whatsoever -- if anything, it only reminds people of the possibility that the next one *could* be worse indeed, which strikes me as an odd kind of thing to bring up when you're arguing *for* nuclear power.

149 posted on 07/01/2006 1:54:17 PM PDT by Ichneumon (Ignorance is curable, but the afflicted has to want to be cured.)
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To: ArGee
No. It seems a perfectly valid argument to me.

Huh? "Well, the initial reports said that there were about 10,000 people in the WTC towers, so the actual 2500-odd death toll ain't so bad" seems like a perfectly valid argument to you?

(And, no, you can't separate that from Coulter's argument, because the two are equivalent.)

293 posted on 07/01/2006 8:18:44 PM PDT by steve-b ("Creation Science" is to the religous right what "Global Warming" is to the socialist left.)
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