Posted on 06/29/2006 10:15:19 AM PDT by george wythe
Well, the good news is that the GOP needed a campaign issue for this fall in Arkansas...
Relax... the court didn't establish any constitutional rights or anything like that. The rule was not a statute, but a policy of the Child Protection Board. The court found that the Board was not empowered with the ability to legislate such issues. Which is balderdash, because the Board is charged with finding a suitable home, so the court is legislating as to how to define a suitable home. Nonetheless, all that has to be done is that the legislature has to update the Child Protection Board's authorization to make such policy.
Did you forget a sarcasm tag?
I don't know how fair the notion is, but if you ask people to think of a state that they associate with any of the following immoralities, my bet is the first state that comes to most people's minds is Arkansas:
Marrying family members closer than 2nd cousins.
Divorces
Shotgun marriages
White-on-black racial violence
and, while not necessarily a sin, still kinda icky: 32-year-old grandmothers.
Grant you, it could be worse (abortion, homosexuality, pedophilia, fornication, cocaine abuse, murder, like here in DC, the city so shameful even a native New Yorker is amazed daily at it... and also CA, NY, MA, RI, NJ, HI...).
It is aganist the law to marry a first cousin or closer family relative in Arkansas. We have little white on black crime. Alot of black on black, and meth head aganist meth head.We do not have shotgun weddings. I do have one 33 year old grandmother in my family though. She is my brother's wife and they have been married for 30 years. Both finished college. Sterotypes are just that sterotypes.
>> I do have one 33 year old grandmother in my family though. She is my brother's wife and they have been married for 30 years. <<
She got married at 3???
JK. I know what you mean.
She got married at age 15. Had her first child at age 15. Her child got married at age 18 and had his first child at age 18. Which made her a 33 year old grandmother. He is now 30 so she is 45 and has been married for 30 years.
Sharp as an orange.
Without those "Professors", you'd have none of these: Doctors, Lawyers, Engineers, Teachers, Chemists, Pharmacists, etc. And Bush *does* has an MBA (unless you consider *that* worthless too?)
I hope it either goest to the SCOTUS or a voter referendum. It's too bad even states with more conservative populations have leftist activist (i.e. evil minded) judges who force the homosexual agenda down the throats of everyone.
I don't know about the divorces, shotgut weddings, etc., but white-on-black racial violence is almost non-existent in America. That's why the rare cases of it (James Byrd in Texas) get so much media play, often for years and years. It's also why the race hustlers have to fabricate cases from time to time (Duke University). There simply aren't very many cases of white-on-black racial violence anywhere, including Arkansas.
I wonder where the usual suspects are to tell us that gays are just normal folks who want to marry and raise kids in a house with a white picket fence while an apple pie bakes in the oven? Why, we should be celebrating the fact that gays want to promote "family values" by marrying and indoctri..., er, adopting kids.
Thanks for the explanation.
Right on target observation.
FYI: Ark governor says Legislature should impose gay-foster-parent ban
null and void: Clinton evolved into more of a scum bag after leaving Arkansas. They held him in check somewhat; i.e. when Hillary started going by Hillary Rodham, Bill was NOT reelected.
Now, to dangus: You have lost your credibility, big-time, my friend. You really showed your ignorance for the reasons listed below:
The "cousin marriage thing" is, in all honesty, just an Arkansas joke. (If two Arkies divorce are they still cousins?) Every state in the Union has a near 50% divorce rate. Why do you single out Arkansas? Shotgun marriages: Well, here again; foklore. But, that's better than shackin' up with their crack head, lazy, thug boyfriend and living off of the taxpayers with four kids all by a different daddy. But then, that's the acceptable norm in DC.
White-on-black racial violence? Excuse me?!! Ever heard of Alabama, Mississippi and Louisiana? Oh, I get it; you bought into Bill Clinton's big lie about seeing black churches burn in Arkansas as a kid, which there is no record of a black church ever being burned in Arkansas.
One parting shot: I lived in Michigan for 10 years and I knew a 29 year old grandmother and there were no step children involved. I've never met a 29 year old grandmother anywhere south of the Mason-Dixon Line.
Arkansas folks are, by-and-large, God fearing, church going, moral people. You owe them an apology.
Lost my credibility? How did I lose my credibility, if I didn't stake it? I confessed my ignorance!
On Clinton, though: You lost your credibility a little. Whitewater, the alleged rapes, Paula Jones, the cocaine cartel,... that all was Arkansas matters.
Now, as for the shotgun weddings: Please note that that is sort of a figurative term. Two sixteen-year-olds getting married cause the bride is preggers is figuratively a shotgun wedding.
Arkansas does have, along with some of its neighbors, an exceptionally high divorce rate. I'm open to deciding that's not quite so sinful, if the alternative is what they do in the northeastern seaboard and Cali: serial relationships bordering on common-law marriage.
As for the white-on-black violence, I never said Arkansas was singularly the worst state, but whatever problems you attribute to Alabama, Mississippi, etc., you have to admit Arkansas was never a shining beacon of tolerance. OTOH, I did check out some crime stats, and found that Arkansas is fairly good, especially for the deep south, in lacking murders and rapes overall.
Frankly, between you and I, if I were going to create a "sin index" from readily available stats, they would be:
1. Abortion. (AR gets an A)
2. Out-of-wedlock pregnancies. (B? B+?)
3. Ratio of marriage-aged people to in-state marriages. (A-)
4. Sales of pornography and prevalence of strip bars. (C?)
5. Tolerance for criminals in elective office (D)
6. Divorces (D)
7. Crime rate, weighted for seriousness of offense (B+)
8. Casino attendance, including out-of-state trips (B?)
9. Tolerance of general public for sinful conduct from sports stars (mostly N/A... U-Ark is fairly shabby)
10. History of electing Clintons (D). I give'em slack for voting against Kerry.
I put question marks next to factors that I can't recall very well having seen good data on the subject.
Oops... I thought of a serious #10... silly omission, given the thread:
10. Biblical understanding of homosexuality (A-)
If they had a vote to ban gay adoption by a constitutional amendment it would pass by a land slide. Probably an even bigger landslide than banning gay marriage did.
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