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To: sergey1973
"Orthodox and Catholic Christians are far close to each other than each of them to Muslims. They should remember this."
Dead wrong. Civilization is a self-reproducing way of life [i.e. sociology]. Frequently it overlaps with religion, and then religion could be used as a label for a civilization [as Huntington did] - but then one needs to emphasize the sociological aspects of any religion [along the lines of Caesar/God dichotomy] and pay very little attention to any particular theology proper. And then it turns out that Huntington's "Orthodox civ", while nominally Christian, is much closer to Islamic and Sinic civilizations than to anything else. All three of them [sociologically] are "asiatic despotisms", using Karl Marx's expression. From here, BTW, follows the proclivity of USSR/Russia to befriending all these Assads, Saddams, Nassers, Quaddafis, Iranians, Kims and their ilk and kind.
10 posted on 06/28/2006 4:27:01 PM PDT by GSlob
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To: GSlob

"And then it turns out that Huntington's "Orthodox civ", while nominally Christian, is much closer to Islamic and Sinic civilizations than to anything else."

Here I would argue with Huntington. Definitely Orthodox Russia as Orthodox Byzantium created after split of Roman Empire into two, developed as despotic civilizations. Nevertheless, Islam still destroyed Orthodox Byzantium and Orthodox Russia was at war with Islamic Ottoman Empire.

In the end, Christianity "both lungs" (as John Paul II proclaimed), will need to unite for Christian Civilization to survive.


11 posted on 06/28/2006 4:37:07 PM PDT by sergey1973
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To: GSlob; Romanov
Dead wrong. Civilization is a self-reproducing way of life [i.e. sociology]. Frequently it overlaps with religion, and then religion could be used as a label for a civilization [as Huntington did] - but then one needs to emphasize the sociological aspects of any religion [along the lines of Caesar/God dichotomy] and pay very little attention to any particular theology proper. And then it turns out that Huntington's "Orthodox civ", while nominally Christian, is much closer to Islamic and Sinic civilizations than to anything else. All three of them [sociologically] are "asiatic despotisms", using Karl Marx's expression. From here, BTW, follows the proclivity of USSR/Russia to befriending all these Assads, Saddams, Nassers, Quaddafis, Iranians, Kims and their ilk and kind.

You left Russia in 1981, which implies to me you are almost certainly Jewish, correct? That would certainly color your view of Orthodox Christianity.
16 posted on 06/28/2006 6:56:58 PM PDT by GarySpFc (Jesus on Immigration, John 10:1)
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