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To: Radix
I know that you won't try, that is good, because you can't produce any verse in the Bible (OT or NT) that even remotely suggests the baptizing of children as an imperative.

I'm not advocating infant baptism nor am I saying it is "scriptural." I'm a Noachide, not a chr*stian. I'm trying to make a point to people who think that religion is a subjective ethnoculture that people are born into and no one has a right to try to convert anyone else.

Most non-Fundamentalist chr*stians assume that all chr*stians baptize their children and bring them up "as chr*stians." They've never heard of universal depravity. And they certainly don't understand the concept of an Objective G-d making demands of everyone, regardless of what his or her "heritage" might be.

I'm telling these people that chr*stian Fundamentalists feel obliged by G-d Himself to convert everyone (not just "minorities" or people who are "different") and they are so consistent that they insist that their children think for themselves and make a personal decision to be a chr*stian (so much for Fundamentalist chr*stians "not thinking;" show me any Catholic with as much confidence in his beliefs!).

I don't know how you construed my post as an endorsement of infant baptism or how you will construe this one. I can only do my best.

239 posted on 06/28/2006 7:19:06 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Pray for the defeat of Napoleon!)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

I think it's kind of like that saying about your freedom ends where the tip of my nose begins, or something like that. I can understand that these people's "faith tradition" (hate that term) compels them to go out and "witness" to everyone they can, whether the person wants to hear it or not. But they shouldn't be surprised when they don't get a nice reaction, and while I don't condone the violence, I know it's almost impossible to get these people to *s h u t u p* and I understand.

As a Catholic, and former seeker, I resent them because I think they run off more people than they reach.


244 posted on 06/28/2006 7:40:34 PM PDT by ichabod1 (Let us not flinch from identifying liberalism as the opposition party to God.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

OK, I didn't go to bed yet.

I cannot this night get into all of your points. Maybe later. I hope so.

Fundamental Christians are bound by the words of the Great Commission. Matthew 28:19 is the favorite quote for most of them in my experience. They have largely messed up the meaning of that particular passage, but at least most people have heard it, or of it.

From that one verse...the world changed forever, even though the words were spoken decades before they were actually documented. Well, if you can believe what the records say.

Likely not if you subscribe to the Higher Critic's version of the radix of that work!

I've come to a place in my life where I think that I should share my insights.

The problem is, I ain't much of a BS artist. I ain't eloquent, and I really don't think that I need to be. I always resort to that Exodus 4:10 thingy verse.

I don't know Hebrew, I don't know much Greek (even the Koine), and I don't know much Latin either.

On the other hand, I ain't exactly a tree stump either.


248 posted on 06/28/2006 7:47:08 PM PDT by Radix (Stop domestic violence. Beat abroad.)
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