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GOP bill targets NY Times
The Hill ^ | 5.27.06

Posted on 06/27/2006 8:44:52 PM PDT by bnelson44

House Republican leaders are expected to introduce a resolution today condemning The New York Times for publishing a story last week that exposed government monitoring of banking records.

The resolution is expected to condemn the leak and publication of classified documents, said one Republican aide with knowledge of the impending legislation.

The resolution comes as Republicans from the president on down condemn media organizations for reporting on the secret government program that tracked financial records overseas through the Society for Worldwide Interbank Financial Telecommunications (SWIFT), an international banking cooperative.

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KEYWORDS: 109th; congress; hayworth; nyt; swift
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To: bnelson44

Weird that theHill.com would get the title wrong - its a resolution, not a bill.


41 posted on 06/27/2006 10:01:56 PM PDT by gondramB (Unity of freedom has never relied upon uniformity of opinion.)
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To: bnelson44
Well. . .good to get into the 'record' and a 'beginning'; I guess. . .but NYT's will not care. They are on a mission; and in truth; they are 'media terrorists'; self-aggrandizing and propelled by hate. . .

At least by now; the NYT"s reporters who cover the White House; should have had their credentials pulled - for duration of 'investigation'(. ..assuming of course; there IS one. . .)

And by now. . .the Feds should have already locked and barred their doors after the first printing of the 'Classified' disclosures; and they should stay locked; until the investigation is complete;

. . .and all the guilty participants in this Treason, have met full Justice.

What America pays in 'lives' alone; what sacrifices are made everyday, by our soldiers; and their families. . .

. . .should make this. . .not too much to ask - or expect . Right?

42 posted on 06/27/2006 10:03:30 PM PDT by cricket (Live Liberal free; or suffer their consequences. . .)
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To: CurlyDave

Good point. A bill of attainder is essentially a legislative act that singles out a person or group for punishment without a trial.

I'd rather have punishment, capitalist punishment, by reducing demand for their propaganda, via trial in the court of public opinion and trial under existing legislation.


43 posted on 06/27/2006 10:03:52 PM PDT by Kryptonite (Keep Democrats Out of Power!)
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To: Kryptonite

A bill condeming someone for some act is not a bill of attainder and it is done all the time. It is not binding.

What would be binding is the revoking of their press pass, and if you don't know if they are working for the enemy, then it is grounds to revoke their pass.



44 posted on 06/27/2006 10:21:52 PM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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To: bnelson44

The bill of attainder discussion concerned the idea of legislating the revocation of the NYCrimes' press credentials. That would be a dumb idea. I like the idea of making a record, via resolution, of who will go on record condemning the NYCrimes and who will not.


45 posted on 06/27/2006 10:26:40 PM PDT by Kryptonite (Keep Democrats Out of Power!)
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To: Kryptonite

There is not a bill being proposed to remove the press credentials. Press credentials are established by a standing committee made up of people who already have credentials in the press gallery. In other words MSM. There is NO WAY they would revoke the NYT's press credentials. Unless the house rules change. And that is what D.J. is trying to get done. It doesn't take a law to change a house rule.... it is a long shot, but it is possible... not likely to happen, but possible.


46 posted on 06/27/2006 10:32:37 PM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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To: bnelson44
The NY Times USED to be a newspaper.

It is now a daily intelligence report to Bin Laden and Al-Queda.

Time to send in a squad of Special Forces to arrest Sulzberg and Keller, and send them down to Gitmo with the other terrorists.

47 posted on 06/27/2006 10:36:41 PM PDT by Henchster (Free Republic - the BEST site on the web!)
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To: bnelson44

House rule? I'll take your word for it.


48 posted on 06/27/2006 10:38:45 PM PDT by Kryptonite (Keep Democrats Out of Power!)
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To: Jameison

"...a resolution today condemning The New York Times "
Like the times gives 2 craps about a resolution. Nail the bastards to the wall . Tell them , reveal the source of the leak or someone will spend the better part of their adult life in jail.
We here on FR must push to flood the advertises who work with the times to take their business elsewhere. We need to compile a list of advertisers and their contact info. I'd like to shut that rag down for good.


49 posted on 06/27/2006 10:43:27 PM PDT by Tiberius109
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BTW , Murtha had NO COMMENT on this situation. He was one who was asked to speak to the times about NOT printing the story. Guess he's up late tonight trying to spin his story. The Times claims that one of the people who were sent to ask them NOT to print didnt really push the issue..here's our chance to publicy slam Murtha. We also need to get a count on who condems the Times (traitors ) and who won't . Many of the Dems wont condem them and will thereby loose a LOT of votes next time around. The Times itself said the program was necessary and working to catch terrorist..They really blew it this time and we need to take advantage of this ASAP


50 posted on 06/27/2006 10:53:32 PM PDT by Tiberius109
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To: bnelson44
Why not just enforce the laws on the books?

Such as US Code Title 18, Part I, Chapter 3, § 793:

Gathering, transmitting or losing defense information:

(e) Whoever having unauthorized possession of, access to, or control over any… information relating to the national defense which information the possessor has reason to believe could be used to the injury of the United States or to the advantage of any foreign nation, willfully communicates, delivers, transmits or causes to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted, or attempts to communicate, deliver, transmit or cause to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted the same to any person not entitled to receive it…

Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.

Though prison really is too good for them.

51 posted on 06/27/2006 10:54:59 PM PDT by Sam Hill
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To: reaganandme
They need to prosecute.

Emphatically.

No slap on the wrist ' condemnation'

That'll just make them laugh and continue their treason...remember, no one's concerned about who is leaking this stuff in the first place. That's a hole that needs to be dynamited - with prosecution, along with the NYT

We need to beat Gonzales' door down - make him at least tell us why he's giving these people a free pass...and demand he prosecute...

And we need to scream loud and clear to our reps on The Hill...let them know we expect action, not a token gesture

52 posted on 06/27/2006 11:00:13 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (LINCOLN: "...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time>")
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To: bnelson44

They should be calling for the prosecution of the Times (LA and NY). Big f'in deal, more do-nothing feel-good-ism.

Next resolution up, they condemn rainy days and Mondays.


53 posted on 06/27/2006 11:26:13 PM PDT by LibertarianInExile ('Is' and 'amnesty' both have clear, plain meanings. Are Billy Jeff, Pence, McQueeg & Bush related?)
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To: CurlyDave

"Do we have a lawyer in the house? This sounds periously close to violating Article 1, Section 9 of the constitution, which forbids any bill of attainder. If we want to prosecute the Times under existing law that is fine, and I am 100% behind it. I doubt that voting to remove their press credentials is going to be found constitutional, and will only embarrass our side."

WTF are you talking about? Press credentials are passes to the Congressional press gallery. They can still report from the Capitol--but they don't get the choice seats. It's as if the NYT was just like the People's Daily Worker or the Dubuque Weekly Fish Wrapper, they don't deserve or get credentials either. Is the Fish Wrapper being punished? No. Neither would the NYT be, were it to lose its seat in the peanut gallery. Revoking a privileged seat held at the sufferance of the House isn't at all the same thing as sending them to the gallows for their crime.

But you're right that they should have been prosecuted already. This is about all that's left to the House, though, and that the President isn't doing his job means they might as well do something to keep the quislings' acts in the public eye.


54 posted on 06/27/2006 11:42:31 PM PDT by LibertarianInExile ('Is' and 'amnesty' both have clear, plain meanings. Are Billy Jeff, Pence, McQueeg & Bush related?)
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To: bnelson44

The only sound the New York Slimes pays attention to is that of crisp green bills crinkling together. We need to hit them in their pocketbook. We need a mass boycott and letter-writing campaign to their biggest advertiser, whomever that might be. I did some googling and couldn't find an answer to that, but did find out that Proctor & Gamble is apparently the country's biggest advertiser in general. Who's up for a boycott with me???


55 posted on 06/28/2006 1:03:39 AM PDT by Hetty_Fauxvert (Kelo must GO!! ..... http://sonoma-moderate.blogspot.com/)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Easy now. It's important to do some sabre-rattling first though, scare the Times a little and get public opinion on your side. Unfortunately, most Americans believe that the Bush administration is this Constitution-shredding dictatorship. If the AG jumps out of the gate prosecuting it'll backfire.

I really doubt much will come of this. I've read prosecution is almost out of the question for various reasons. Congress is considering passing a resolution. BIG DEAL! We need to nail the leakers to the wall but again I doubt it will happen.

56 posted on 06/28/2006 1:26:06 AM PDT by teletech (Friends don't let friends vote DemocRAT)
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To: bnelson44

Without finding and prosecuting the leaker(s), this will have all the force of a UN Resolution.


57 posted on 06/28/2006 3:46:11 AM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: reaganandme
They need to prosecute. The New York Times doesn't get to decide what is classified and what isn't. In a time of war, the NYT has assisted our enemies at every turn.

MEGADITTOS

58 posted on 06/28/2006 3:52:46 AM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: Henchster

"The NY Times USED to be a newspaper.
It is now a daily intelligence report to Bin Laden and Al-Queda.

Time to send in a squad of Special Forces to arrest Sulzberg and Keller, and send them down to Gitmo with the other terrorists."


Great idea.


59 posted on 06/28/2006 3:59:42 AM PDT by Jameison
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To: TheCrusader
"I don't see any difference between the two parties except for Iraq."

Nonsense.
60 posted on 06/28/2006 4:03:06 AM PDT by Jameison
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