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To: Libloather

The NYT did it on purpose because they are on the terrorist's side.

The financial transactions scare them because maybe they filtered some cash Al Qaida's way.

And, who knows, maybe Al Qaida filtered some back to the NYT in exchange for the intelligence dump.


3 posted on 06/27/2006 7:56:04 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It. Supporting our Troops Means Praying for them to Win!)
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To: xzins

Its interesting that everyone expects the Attorney General to indict the New York times. I would take no indictment as a very ominous sign if I were a reporter or editor for the New York times.
Our nation is at war with Islamofacists, The New York Times has been conducting a defacto espionage operation which has put the country and its soldiers at risk on several occasions.

The president and the NSA have the authority and duty to protect the American people. In doing so, launching a counter espionage operation against the New York Times would be justified and legal. The president or the AG have no duty to indict the Times or its editors.We all expect that because the Dems have done the legal dance on the chests of so many good Republicans: Libby, Rove, Delay, Limbaugh, and the list will go on. Republicans might do things differently. What would a counter espionage operation against the NYT look like, conducted by the NSA? 1) The dissemination of true false information or disinformation designed to traduce the paper 2) The placing of agents as employees with the times, to perform tasks which would interrupt work at the NYT 3) The use of highly exotic computer viruses to wipe the hard drives of computers after copying the hard drives and sending the data to a secure server. 4) The use of computer viruses and other methods to remove financing options from the various banks used by the NYT. And there are many , many more.

Read section 2.9 (b) carefully of the executive order which is the guiding document of the NSA.

Executive Order 12333 -- United States Intelligence Activities

December 4, 1981


2.9 Undisclosed Participation in Organizations Within the United States. No one acting on behalf of agencies within the Intelligence Community may join or otherwise participate in any organization in the United States on behalf of any agency within the Intelligence Community without disclosing his intelligence affiliation to appropriate officials of the organization, except in accordance with procedures established by the head of the agency concerned and approved by the Attorney General. Such participation shall be authorized only if it is essential to achieving lawful purposes as determined by the agency head or designee. No such participation may be undertaken for the purpose of influencing the activity of the organization or its members except in cases where:

(a) The participation is undertaken on behalf of the FBI in the course of a lawful investigation; or (b) The organization concerned is composed primarily of individuals who are not United States persons and is reasonably believed to be acting on behalf of a foreign power.


There are people who work at the NYT who are not United States persons, and the paper is composed primarily of individuals who are not conducting themselves as United States persons, but as agents of a foreign Islamofacist movement. The Attorney general may authorize a covert operation within the NYT according to 2.9 , and it would obviate 2.9 (b) anyway.

I am sure our president would like to proceed with an indictment of the Times, which is just what the Times Owner and editors would like. It is their reason for actually going against Mr. Snows imprecations, they want the publicity of a martyrs trial which they would win before a liberal judge,all the while accusing the administration of fascism.

It may be that a counter espionage operation is in the works for the Times,we would see their computers begin to fail, their hard drives emptied, and their financial processing disorganized and nonfunctional, deadlines missed, and reporter credit cards non functional, travel plans disorganized.

I would have no hesitation is recommending the administration to proceed with such a counter espionage operation. It should have been initiated some time ago, without the involvement of the CIA or the FBI.

Then perhaps the NYT would get the message: Espionage against the USA does not pay.

The president does not have to insist that the AG indict them. He has much better options at his disposal.


9 posted on 06/27/2006 8:26:01 PM PDT by Candor7 (Into Liberal flatulance goes the best hope of the West, and who wants to be a smart feller?)
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To: xzins
The financial transactions scare them because maybe they filtered some cash Al Qaida's way.

Or the elites that pull their strings would be disturbed at the thought of info about their foreign financial transactions getting passed to IRS.

12 posted on 06/27/2006 8:35:00 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (A planned society is most appealing to those with the arrogance to think they will be the planners)
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To: xzins

[The financial transactions scare them because maybe they filtered some cash Al Qaida's way.

And, who knows, maybe Al Qaida filtered some back to the NYT in exchange for the intelligence dump.]

That's a possibility...then again, maybe some other criminal entity does not like the international banking intel program. Bush said it best "follow the money". How did the UN Oil for Food scandal get unearthed?


13 posted on 06/27/2006 8:38:08 PM PDT by khnyny (Never in the field of human conflict was so much owed by so many to so few.- Winston Churchill)
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