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Scientists OK Gore's movie for accuracy [barf alert]
AP via Yahoo ^ | 6/27/06 | SETH BORENSTEIN

Posted on 06/27/2006 11:32:51 AM PDT by T. P. Pole

WASHINGTON - The nation's top climate scientists are giving "An Inconvenient Truth," Al Gore's documentary on global warming, five stars for accuracy.

The former vice president's movie — replete with the prospect of a flooded New York City, an inundated Florida, more and nastier hurricanes, worsening droughts, retreating glaciers and disappearing ice sheets — mostly got the science right, said all 19 climate scientists who had seen the movie or read the book and answered questions from The Associated Press.

The AP contacted more than 100 top climate researchers by e-mail and phone for their opinion. Among those contacted were vocal skeptics of climate change theory. Most scientists had not seen the movie, which is in limited release, or read the book.

But those who have seen it had the same general impression: Gore conveyed the science correctly; the world is getting hotter and it is a manmade catastrophe-in-the-making caused by the burning of fossil fuels.

"Excellent," said William Schlesinger, dean of the Nicholas School of Environment and Earth Sciences at Duke University. "He got all the important material and got it right."

Robert Corell, chairman of the worldwide Arctic Climate Impact Assessment group of scientists, read the book and saw Gore give the slideshow presentation that is woven throughout the documentary.

"I sat there and I'm amazed at how thorough and accurate," Corell said. "After the presentation I said, `Al, I'm absolutely blown away. There's a lot of details you could get wrong.' ... I could find no error."

Gore, in an interview with the AP, said he wasn't surprised "because I took a lot of care to try to make sure the science was right."

The tiny errors scientists found weren't a big deal, "far, far fewer and less significant than the shortcoming in speeches by the typical politician explaining an issue," said Michael MacCracken, who used to be in charge of the nation's global warming effects program and is now chief scientist at the Climate Institute in Washington.

One concern was about the connection between hurricanes and global warming. That is a subject of a heated debate in the science community. Gore cited five recent scientific studies to support his view.

"I thought the use of imagery from Hurricane Katrina was inappropriate and unnecessary in this regard, as there are plenty of disturbing impacts associated with global warming for which there is much greater scientific consensus," said Brian Soden, a University of Miami professor of meteorology and oceanography.

Some scientists said Gore confused his ice sheets when he said the effect of the Clean Air Act is noticeable in the Antarctic ice core; it is the Greenland ice core. Others thought Gore oversimplified the causal-link between the key greenhouse gas carbon dioxide and rising temperatures.

While some nonscientists could be depressed by the dire disaster-laden warmer world scenario that Gore laid out, one top researcher thought it was too optimistic. Tom Wigley, senior scientist at the National Center for Atmospheric Research, thought the former vice president sugarcoated the problem by saying that with already-available technologies and changes in habit — such as changing light bulbs — the world could help slow or stop global warming.

While more than 1 million people have seen the movie since it opened in May, that does not include Washington's top science decision makers. President Bush said he won't see it. The heads of the Environmental Protection Agency and NASA haven't seen it, and the president's science adviser said the movie is on his to-see list.

"They are quite literally afraid to know the truth," Gore said. "Because if you accept the truth of what the scientific community is saying, it gives you a moral imperative to start to rein in the 70 million tons of global warming pollution that human civilization is putting into the atmosphere every day."

As far as the movie's entertainment value, Scripps Institution geosciences professor Jeff Severinghaus summed it up: "My wife fell asleep. Of course, I was on the edge of my chair."


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KEYWORDS: bias; bs; climatechange; excelsior; globalhotair; globalwarming; gore; inconvenienttruth; manbearpig; serial; superserial; totalbs; totallyserial
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To: twigs
However, he said that a good portion of this movie is based on fact.

Oh, based upon what I have seen so far, it is... Disjointed, misapplied, occassionally Clintonesquely stated facts. He appears to have simply made up far less than his previous book. Doesn't mean he's right.

61 posted on 06/28/2006 10:57:30 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Old Professer
An assessment of the likely increase of CO2 in the atmosphere due to climate change and if the Amazon Rainforest ceases to be a CO2 sink.

Except that the Amazon rain-forest seems fairly carbon neutral, and the discounted temperate forests are the ones eating large amounts of Carbon.

And then there's the oceans...

62 posted on 06/28/2006 11:13:28 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: edzo4
What frightens me is the probability that Al Gore himself believes the hype he's trying to sell. Those who've watched him give his PowerPoint presentation and have discussed it with him say he does.

He's changed his language some since 1992, but a careful listening to the linguistics of his discussions of each his environmental views, and his religious beliefs show very Gaiaist foundations. I'm quite convinced he believes it to his very core. It's religious zeal.

63 posted on 06/28/2006 11:18:22 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: T. P. Pole
According to the latest internet tracking of box office stats., the movie has been out there for five weeks and up to last Sunday nights gate receipts it had grossed $9.6 million.
Given that the movie was probably put together from old news reel films of hurricanes and ice bergs spliced together with a voice over by the Gorebot, it stands to reason he's going to clean up.
64 posted on 06/28/2006 11:36:49 AM PDT by finnigan2
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To: lepton
Well, I merely passed this along; the Rain Forest nee Jungle is totemic in environmental circles and often factors heavily in all emotionally-laden discussions and polemics.
65 posted on 06/28/2006 11:44:46 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: T. P. Pole; twigs; Puppage; 45Auto; Cementjungle; DBrow; steve-b; dead; in hoc signo vinces; ...
The guy that wrote this article for the AP is very weird. He isn't listed as a correspondent but his email shows he is in the http://www.krwashington.com/ domain.

krwashington is the link to the McClatchy Washington Bureau News Service.

You may be able to search for his email address, but I am told it is screened.

What would be more interesting is to contact this news service and find out who this guy is.

An interesting fact about the AP is, if you work at a newspaper/service, you are allowed to submit stories to the AP even if you are a nobody. You can go in AP.org and register as a news submitter.

Could it be, this is a complete bogus story that is just getting picked up as a real story?

Does this guy just mix truth with fiction enough to confuse whether he is being honest and to keep his creditals in submitting ap stories?

Oh, McClatchy owns Knight Ridder now.
66 posted on 06/28/2006 10:28:09 PM PDT by dila813
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To: dila813

Wow! Good catch and I didn't know that about the AP. We need to find out more about this guy.


67 posted on 06/29/2006 4:55:05 AM PDT by Peach (Iraq/AlQaeda relationship http://markeichenlaub.blogspot.com/2006/06/strategic-relationship-between.)
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68 posted on 06/29/2006 5:30:16 AM PDT by Fixit (ManBearPig is going to kill us all! Save us Al Gore!)
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To: dila813

http://gristmill.grist.org/story/2004/10/18/142041/57

Well, someone thinks Seth has credibility- Grist mag, for one. Looks like Seth "speaks truth to power", whatever that menns!
Thanks for the headsup, Dila, I'll dig a bit more.


69 posted on 06/29/2006 5:50:04 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: dila813

Seth Borenstein is a sort-of Pulitzer winner, an "environmental reporter", Bush Critic, and (surprise) college professor!


Press Releases
Vermont Law School 2004 Environmental Law Media Fellows Selected

Will Study Environmental Law This Summer

South Royalton, VT (May 4, 2004) – Three award-winning, environmental journalists have been selected as this year’s Vermont Law School Environmental Law Media Fellows: Seth Borenstein, a Washington-based, national correspondent for the Knight Ridder newspaper chain; Florah Seboni, founder and managing editor of Wena Industry and Environment Magazine (Botswana, Africa); and Mark Schapiro, deputy editorial director for the Center for Investigative Reporting (San Francisco). Each will spend two weeks in Vermont this summer learning environmental law from leaders in the field.
Seth Borenstein



Seth Borenstein covers environmental issues in Washington and across the nation. His many accomplishments include breaking stories on the lack of environmental law enforcement and the rise of pollution during the Bush administration, and insightful articles on global warming, declining maintenance in the National Parks, and Superfund.

As a science/technology writer, Borenstein was part of a team named as a 2004 Pulitzer Prize finalist for coverage of the Columbia space shuttle accident. He received a “Laurel” award in 2002 from the Columbia Journalism Review for breaking stories on the airline industry and the FAA’s efforts to block proposals that would have increased airplane security prior to September 11, 2001, and he received an “Excellence in Newsgathering” Award in 1997 as the Orlando Sentinel’s top reporter of the year.

Borenstein’s environmental law courses at VLS will include “Clean Water Act” and “Current Issues in Western Resource Litigation.”


70 posted on 06/29/2006 7:02:48 AM PDT by DBrow
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