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A major announcement about house churches (The fastest growing Movement in Christianity)
WorldNetdaily.com ^ | 06/27/2006 | James Rutz

Posted on 06/27/2006 9:56:30 AM PDT by SirLinksalot

A major announcement about house churches

-------------------------------------------------------- Posted: June 27, 2006 1:00 a.m. Eastern

© 2006 WorldNetDaily.com

The little guy is back. For the first time in 1,700 years, simple churches meeting in homes are once again a factor in human events.

In many countries, they're booming so strongly that critics and opponents can no longer brush them aside as a fringe movement. And as I documented repeatedly in "Megashift," home churches are producing millions of proactive Christians who now and then perform miracles (though the credit ultimately belongs to God, of course).

But this week, even I was shocked to discover how big our house church community in North America really is. Briefly stated, we're right about halfway between the Catholic Church and the Southern Baptist Convention (which is the second-largest denomination in the U.S.).

OK now, let's inhale. I'm stunned, too. This really is starting to alter the landscape for all of us.

Let me state up front: These are solid numbers. George Barna, the leading U.S. church pollster and perhaps the most widely quoted Christian leader in America, is the author of the figures below. They are based on a full-on, four-month scientific survey of 5,013 adults, including 663 blacks, 631 hispanics, 676 liberals and 1,608 conservatives.

Nobody argues with numbers from The Barna Group. They employ all the professional safeguards to ensure tight results – in this case, a sampling error of +/-1.8 percent. Here are the results stated in five ways:

In a typical week, 9 percent of U.S. adults attend a house church.

In absolute numbers, that 9 percent equals roughly 20 million people.

In a typical month, about 43 million U.S. adults attend a house church.

All told, 70 million U.S. adults have at least experimented with participation in a house church.

Focusing only on those who attend some kind of church (which I recall is about 43 percent of us), 74 percent of them attend only a traditional church, 19 percent attend both a traditional and a house church, and 5 percent are hard-core house church folks. The study counted only attendance at house churches, not small groups ("cells") that are part of a traditional church.

George Barna is the author of the new best seller, "Revolution," which talks a lot about the kind of person who is leaving the fold of the institutional church and joining things like house churches. Revolutionaries are highly dedicated to Christ and know the Bible better than most. Barna predicts that within 20 years, Revolutionaries will comprise 65-70 percent of U.S. Christianity, leaving in the traditional setting only 30-35 percent (primarily the white-haired crowd).

Please don't think of the house church as a new fad. For the first 300 years of Christianity, house churches were the norm. In fact, church buildings were quite rare until the fourth century, when the power-hungry Roman Emperor Constantine suddenly outlawed house church meetings, began erecting church buildings with Roman tax money, and issued a decree that all should join his Catholic Church. If you want to stick to a biblical model, the house church is your only choice.

In China, the world's largest church (120 million) is 90 percent based in homes. The cover story in this week's World magazine (June 24) is on how Christian business leaders in China are beginning to change the whole situation in that country. Yes, even while Christians in many provinces are hunted down and tortured, CEOs of corporations in areas with freedom are changing the way government looks at Christianity. That is major.

Bottom line: Worldwide, the original church is back, re-creating the biblical model: "Day after day, they met by common consent in the Temple Courts and broke bread from house to house." (Acts 2:46) God is again pouring out His power on plain folks, bringing a megashift – not in our doctrine, but in our entire lifestyle.

House churches in North America are no longer seen as being in conflict with the traditional church. In fact, much to our amazement, noted leaders like Rick Warren have recently come out strongly in favor of house churches. Saddleback Church is even sending out their own members as "missionaries" to start house church networks! And just last week, John Arnott of Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship asked me, as a house church spokesman, to speak at his big annual conference. Unheard of.

Of course, many Christians will prefer to stay in their traditional roles, and that's OK. But now there is a strong alternative for ambitious souls who are crying out to do more, to have more, to be more.

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James Rutz is chairman of Megashift Ministries and founder-chairman of Open Church Ministries. He is the author of "MEGASHIFT: Igniting Spiritual Power," and, most recently, "The Meaning of Life." If you'd rather order by phone, call WND's toll-free customer service line at 1-800-4WND-COM (1-800-496-3266).


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To: dangus

"Barna may not even be a very good pollster, at all. He is respected among Protestant Christians primarily because is the only pollster to specialize in Christianity, and because he uses extremely charged, Protestant-sectarian definitions. For instance, he frequently phrases questions in such a manner that few Catholics would ever answer "yes" to, and then uses those questions to establish that those who answer "no" to them deny central teachings of the Catholic faith, such as the infallibility of the bible.
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Interesting, and I think you may be right, at least to a degree. He definitely has a bit of a fundamentalist orientation. I'll have to think about that when I look at his polling.


61 posted on 06/27/2006 11:26:28 AM PDT by MineralMan (non-evangelical atheist)
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To: taxcontrol

I don't recall condonement of slavery in the New Testament. Also, one must put the Bible in context of the times. Slavery was accepted by owners and slaves alike. Some workers, government dependents, and immigrants don't live much different from slaves today.

Just a few of my thoughts for your consideration.


62 posted on 06/27/2006 11:27:31 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot
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To: oyez

"Does Fred Phelps run a house church? His group seems to have splintered off from something."

Basically, yes. His congregation is made up mostly of family members. There have been some ugly suggestions made regarding his relationships with his family.

But, then, Phelps is an ugly, ugly man, with ugly, ugly beliefs.

There are other groups that call themselves Christian who espouse some very ugly beliefs. Think (and Google) Christian Identity and Christian Reconstructionism.

There are some strange things masquerading as Christianity out there.


63 posted on 06/27/2006 11:28:54 AM PDT by MineralMan (non-evangelical atheist)
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To: dangus

You make a very interesting point here. Thanks for the post and the insight.


64 posted on 06/27/2006 11:29:35 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot
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To: taxcontrol
"I find myself in a similar situation, where the doctrine of the traditional church is counter to the truths that I find in the Bible."

The traditional Church, which really just means that Church which has been in practice since the earliest times, does not contradict the Bible. It's people who self-interpret the Bible that contradict the Church, as it clearly states in 2 Peter 1:20, and 2 Peter 3:16.

Only the Church has the authority to interpret Scripture, as it again clearly shows in Act 8: 27-31. In this verse the highly educated eunuch from Ethiopia, and recent convert along with his Queen, was reading Scripture but did not understand its meaning. The Holy Spirit then sent Philip, (who was commissioned by the Holy Spirit to teach the gospel), to help the (very well educated) eunuch understand what he was reading. When people take up the Bible and make themselves the interpreters, all they really do is crown themselves Pope.

65 posted on 06/27/2006 11:34:27 AM PDT by TheCrusader
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To: SirLinksalot

"For the first 300 years of Christianity, house churches were the norm. In fact, church buildings were quite rare until the fourth century, when the power-hungry Roman Emperor Constantine suddenly outlawed house church meetings, began erecting church buildings with Roman tax money, and issued a decree that all should join his Catholic Church. If you want to stick to a biblical model, the house church is your only choice."

I've investigated and have been part of house churches, and my research turns up this:

- The 1st century church conducted itself in a organized fashion, holding services nearly identical to modern church services;

- The early house church was held in the residence of a wealthy Christian largely out of necessity (persecution), rather than out of a desire to avoid having a building

- Constantine did not himself decree the Catholic (or catholic, small c) church nor go after house churches; however, pre-Constantine councils did dedicate time to codifying Christian belief and ridding Christianity of nascent heretical groups, including sex-cults masquerading as Christianity

- *Some* (not all) in the house church movement are, as this writer appears to be, rather devoted to the idea that they have the "real" Christianity and that other Christians are living a lie of some sort. My experience as a Christian both in and out of groups that have buildings is: always beware of the guy who claims to have the special knowledge that has somehow eluded 2000 years of Christian thinking.

Now don't take this too far! The house church idea is great, and it's a helpmeet for many who want a closer personal service with other believers or have been burned by busy-bodies or other problems that sometimes accompany church-people. It's obviously a necessity in places like China where the PRC is willing to kill to maintain a monopoly on thought.

But hey, when people then go that extra step and claim that somehow the original church was corrupted and we're all in Babylon or something, well, I kinda relegate that with the Dan Brown plotline.


66 posted on 06/27/2006 11:39:37 AM PDT by No.6 (www.fourthfightergroup.com)
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To: oyez
"Does Fred Phelps run a house church?"

Nope. It is a traditional brick and morter church. How does this relate to the topic?



Below is from their website...

"Established in 1955 by Pastor Fred Phelps, the Westboro Baptist Church (WBC) of Topeka, Kansas still exists today as an Old School (or, Primitive) Baptist Church. See the WBC Monograph. In short, we adhere to the teachings of the Bible, preach against all form of sin (e.g., fornication, adultery, sodomy), and insist that the doctrines of grace be taught publicly to all men. These doctrines of grace were well summed up by John Calvin in his 5 points of Calvinism: Total Depravity, Unconditional Election, Limited Atonement, Irresistible Grace, and Perseverance of the Saints. Although these doctrines are almost universally hated today, they were once loved and believed. For example, Augustine (one of the early Church fathers), Martin Luther (the founder of the Lutheran Church), John Knox (the founder of the Presbyterian Church), Augustus Toplady (hymnist and leader in the Episcopal Church), Charles Spurgeon (a well-known preacher), and John Leland (who was partially responsible for our First Amendment in the United States) are just a few examples of people who have advanced these ideas...."
67 posted on 06/27/2006 11:42:25 AM PDT by j_k_l
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To: SirLinksalot

In some parts of the country, a "house church" is nothing more than a financial racket in which a "pastor" buys a house, lives in it with his family, and has weekly prayer meetings. That's all legitimate, but in many places these properties are exempt from property taxes.


68 posted on 06/27/2006 11:46:37 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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To: Neoliberalnot

Thanks, but I AM asking a question. My memory on this is too weak to be taken for certain...


69 posted on 06/27/2006 11:47:05 AM PDT by dangus
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To: Neoliberalnot
Slavery in the NT:

Ephesians 6:5-6,9
Colossians 3:22
Colossians 4:1
Titus 2:9
1 Peter 2:18

These passages deal specifically with the responsibilities of master and slave. There are other more metaphorical references to slaves, particularly in Romans but those passages are in a different context.
70 posted on 06/27/2006 11:49:59 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: TheCrusader
"..Only the Church has the authority to interpret Scripture.."

And there we would disagree. I believe as scripture shows, that when I am before God to be judged, I will be the one who will speak for my actions and that Jesus will intercede on my behalf for my failings.

There is no Church or pastor, or priest or pope in that picture. I am responsible for my actions and I will be held accountable for my failings. Therefore, I must take responsibility for my life now and that means I must know what I must do to be in God's will. No other person on the face of this planet can do that for me.
71 posted on 06/27/2006 11:53:56 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: taxcontrol
"An interesting discussion would start with 1) is a "Church" required by scripture and 2) what does a "church" look like?"

(1). "And Jesus answered him, "Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jona! For flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but my Father who is in heaven. And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it." (Mathew 16: 17-18).

"There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called to the one hope that belongs to your call, one Lord, one faith, one baptism," (Ephesians 4:4)

I think the best example of what the Church "should look like" is found in Act ch. 15. It details how the Holy Spirit was upon some of the elders, and how they in turn could ordain others with this charism. It also shows that the Church had "elders" who would decide doctrine, (in this case the question of doctrine was circumsicm, and Peter decided once for all). From this chapter it's obvious that the early Church had its members, its heirarchy, its elders and its leader, which was clearly Peter:


"But some men came down from Judea and were teaching the brethren, "Unless you are circumcised according to the custom of Moses, you cannot be saved." And when Paul and Barnabas had no small dissension and debate with them, Paul and Barnabas and some of the others were appointed to go up to Jerusalem to the apostles and the elders about this question. So, being sent on their way by the church, they passed through both Phoenicia and Samaria, reporting the conversion of the Gentiles, and they gave great joy to all the brethren. When they came to Jerusalem, they were welcomed by the church and the apostles and the elders, and they declared all that God had done with them. But some believers who belonged to the party of the Pharisees rose up, and said, "It is necessary to circumcise them, and to charge them to keep the law of Moses."

"The apostles and the elders were gathered together to consider this matter. And after there had been much debate, Peter rose and said to them, "Brethren, you know that in the early days God made choice among you, that by my mouth the Gentiles should hear the word of the gospel and believe. And God who knows the heart bore witness to them, giving them the Holy Spirit just as he did to us; and he made no distinction between us and them, but cleansed their hearts by faith. Now therefore why do you make trial of God by putting a yoke upon the neck of the disciples which neither our fathers nor we have been able to bear? But we believe that we shall be saved through the grace of the Lord Jesus, just as they will." "And all the assembly kept silence; and they listened to Barnabas and Paul as they related what signs and wonders God had done through them among the Gentiles. After they finished speaking, James replied, "Brethren, listen to me. Simeon has related how God first visited the Gentiles, to take out of them a people for his name. And with this the words of the prophets agree, as it is written, 'After this I will return, and I will rebuild the dwelling of David, which has fallen; I will rebuild its ruins, and I will set it up, that the rest of men may seek the Lord, and all the Gentiles who are called by my name, says the Lord, who has made these things known from of old.' Therefore my judgment is that we should not trouble those of the Gentiles who turn to God, but should write to them to abstain from the pollutions of idols and from unchastity and from what is strangled and from blood. For from early generations Moses has had in every city those who preach him, for he is read every sabbath in the synagogues."

"Then it seemed good to the apostles and the elders, with the whole church, to choose men from among them and send them to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas. They sent Judas called Barsabbas, and Silas, leading men among the brethren, with the following letter: "The brethren, both the apostles and the elders, to the brethren who are of the Gentiles in Antioch and Syria and Cilicia, greeting. Since we have heard that some persons from us have troubled you with words, unsettling your minds, although we gave them no instructions, it has seemed good to us, having come to one accord, to choose men and send them to you with our beloved Barnabas and Paul, men who have risked their lives for the sake of our Lord Jesus Christ. We have therefore sent Judas and Silas, who themselves will tell you the same things by word of mouth. For it has seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things: that you abstain from what has been sacrificed to idols and from blood and from what is strangled and from unchastity. If you keep yourselves from these, you will do well. Farewell." "So when they were sent off, they went down to Antioch; and having gathered the congregation together, they delivered the letter. And when they read it, they rejoiced at the exhortation. And Judas and Silas, who were themselves prophets, exhorted the brethren with many words and strengthened them. And after they had spent some time, they were sent off in peace by the brethren to those who had sent them. But Paul and Barnabas remained in Antioch, teaching and preaching the word of the Lord, with many others also". "And after some days Paul said to Barnabas, "Come, let us return and visit the brethren in every city where we proclaimed the word of the Lord, and see how they are." And Barnabas wanted to take with them John called Mark. But Paul thought best not to take with them one who had withdrawn from them in Pamphylia, and had not gone with them to the work. And there arose a sharp contention, so that they separated from each other; Barnabas took Mark with him and sailed away to Cyprus, but Paul chose Silas and departed, being commended by the brethren to the grace of the Lord. And he went through Syria and Cilicia, strengthening the churches".

72 posted on 06/27/2006 11:54:37 AM PDT by TheCrusader
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To: dangus

"It's only conflict with the bible is that it cautions not to pay prophets, whereas Paul says to do so, but this conflict is likely referring to a different circumstance than Paul meant; Paul referred to ordained, traveling preachers raising funds for other communities, whereas the Didache seems to be referring to unordained members of the local community."

My reading was that this passage referred to people who showed up out of the blue, so to speak. In order to prevent Christians from being targets for scam artists, the Didache seems to encourage people to let them prove their worth first. The leeches would (now as then) want cash up front and never to do real work.

Paul himself didn't mind getting his hands dirty rather than just being a paid speaker: (1 Thess 2:9) "Surely you remember, brothers, our toil and hardship; we worked night and day in order not to be a burden to anyone while we preached the gospel of God to you."

I liken that passage to what I do when I get some mailer asking for a charity cause. I don't just pay up to every one, but if their doctrine is good and some research turns up that they're on the level and efficient, then they may get some $. If it turns out that they spend most of their money on their own salaries and on sending out more mailers, forget it.


73 posted on 06/27/2006 11:55:22 AM PDT by No.6 (www.fourthfightergroup.com)
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To: taxcontrol

Thank you. Again, the context of the times is important. Slaves were treated very differently based on biblical principles from those in parts of the world today where such a practice still occurs.


74 posted on 06/27/2006 11:58:35 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot
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To: Neoliberalnot
While I understand your point and agree that the Jewish law of the time codified specific rules on how slaves and masters were to interact. I would submit that from the view point of a slave, there is not much difference between "Biblical" slavery and historical or even modern slavery.

To back my point, I would show to you that a slave could beaten so severally that the slave would die. And if that death occurred two or three days after the beating, then the master would not be held accountable for the death. That is an example of "Biblical" slavery.
75 posted on 06/27/2006 12:04:01 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: taxcontrol
"No other person on the face of this planet can do that for me."

They can't do it for you, their job is to teach you, encourage you and administer the Sacraments that will help you. If you read the Bible that you claim is guiding you, you can't help but read on many, many occasions that the Church had its heirarchy, (apostles, disciples, elders, presbyters, etc), who went out and taught and encouraged, exhorted and blessed. Nobody was handing out Bibles and saying: "Here ya go friend, read this thing and good luck". On the contrary, Peter himself said that the gospel was spread by MOUTH; and by mouth because only those "sent" by God had the Holy Spirit upon them for the purpose of teaching properly.

"When they came to Jerusalem, they were welcomed by the church and the apostles and the elders, and they declared all that God had done with them. But some believers who belonged to the party of the Pharisees rose up, and said, "It is necessary to circumcise them, and to charge them to keep the law of Moses."

6 "The apostles and the elders were gathered together to consider this matter. 7 And after there had been much debate, Peter rose and said to them, "Brethren, you know that in the early days God made choice among you, that by my mouth the Gentiles should hear the word of the gospel and believe". (Acts 15: 4-7)

76 posted on 06/27/2006 12:04:12 PM PDT by TheCrusader
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
Keep your eyes on Jesus and you won't be disappointed.
77 posted on 06/27/2006 12:08:36 PM PDT by Coldwater Creek ("Over there, over there, We won't be back 'til it's over Over there.")
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To: dangus


No.


78 posted on 06/27/2006 12:11:24 PM PDT by Paperdoll ( on the cutting edge.)
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To: MineralMan
Is "fundamentalist" a bad word when used to describe a Christian? Just wondering, as the left always seems to use it this way.

I would argue that what is and is not a fundamentalist is a family matter between evangelical protestants.
79 posted on 06/27/2006 12:18:16 PM PDT by Binghamton_native
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To: TheCrusader
When people take up the Bible and make themselves the interpreter

My Bible is alive. It is the Word of God. Even one verse has the power to change lives. God gave me free will and told me to study his word. No man is perfect.

80 posted on 06/27/2006 12:21:29 PM PDT by winodog (Who will stop Bubba and the Beast in 08?)
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