Posted on 06/27/2006 3:41:53 AM PDT by PatrickHenry
When the New York State Assembly's legislative session ended on June 23, 2006, Assembly Bill 8036 died in committee. If enacted, the bill would have required that "all pupils in grades kindergarten through twelve in all public schools in the state ... receive instruction in all aspects of the controversy surrounding evolution and the origins of man." A later provision specified that such instruction would include information about "intelligent design and information effectively challenging the theory of evolution."
The bill was never expected to succeed; its sponsor, Assemblyman Daniel L. Hooker (R-District 127), was reported as explaining that his intention was more to spark discussion than to pass the bill, and as acknowledging that the bill was "religion-based." Moreover, Hooker is not planning on seeking a third term in the Assembly due to his military commitments: he is expected to be on active duty with the Marine Corps until at least early 2007.
Jehovah's Witnesses everywhere are saddened.
Of course not. That would require a strict adherence to the facts, instead of projecting what you want to believe. That pretty much says it all, and sums up my point nicely.
Out of curiosity, do my negative views on Palestinian actions make me a defacto Jew?
Vice insisting that I'm an ID'er, you could just use a turn of phrase on a time honored slur, "ID lover!".
You know it is only a matter of time until these ID deviants begin an underground resistance of forbidden teaching in the public sector. Have you given much thought to punishment? These people need to be put in their place. (Like 'burning at the stake', this is known as hyperbole, it is often useful for pointing out the ludicrous to people who cannot see themselves as others do.)
This is silly. The early grades (and especially kindergarten) are not an appropriate time for the abstract concepts involved in evolution and ID. The kids will have no idea what the teacher is talking about.
At this age a lot of children don't understand that if you change the shape of something, it still has the same mass and volume. Yet this assemblyman wants to introduce abstract concepts to them like descent with modification and "irreducible compexity" (whatever that might be).
Dumb.
Thanks for the ping!
"Of course not. That would require a strict adherence to the facts, instead of projecting what you want to believe. That pretty much says it all, and sums up my point nicely."
No, it would be because I DO adhere to the evidence, and your posting history does not support you claim.
"You know it is only a matter of time until these ID deviants begin an underground resistance of forbidden teaching in the public sector."
Cry me a river.
Which pretty much sums up the motivations behind this garbage 'controversy':
String Theory: no legislation required
Global Warming: no legislation required
Evolution: Gotta pass some laws challenging this unproven theory! Call you congressman! It's for the children, after all...
These "designed" idiots never cease to amaze me.
"The theory of evolution offends some people's religious sensibilities. Since religious opinions are not relevant to scientific inquiry, some people have constructed spurious "scientific" objections. The problems with these arguments are... [insert some of the points hashed out ad nauseam on these thereads]."
There. A nice succinct "instruction in all aspects of the controversy".
AFAIK, Assemblyman Hooker (the person who needs to hear this message) does not lurk here.
No, it just makes them appear sneaky and dishonest.
scientists who are not approaching the field from a Christian perspective still observe problems too great to be met by naturalistic answers in the theory of evolution
..and of course you will either ignore any request to demonstrate a single one of these great problems you perceive or just ignore all the answers you get after swiping a quote from from one of the silly anti-science websites you dwell on.
The theory of evolution has been uniquely politicized, and thus "critical examination" raises red flags in a way that "critical examination" of, say, the theory of relativity doesn't.
To draw an analogy, the Theory of Evolution and the Theory of Relativity are both well-established scientific explanations, just as the Second Amendment and the Third Amendment are both well-established articles of the Bill of Rights. In each case, people are much touchier about the former than the latter, because the former is under sustained political attack while the latter is questioned only by an insignificant fringe of cranks.
Really? All my posts (3000+)are available to you. Which one are you basing this on? Or is it just true because you're unwilling to accept that other possibilities might exist?
What would the world do without objective folk like you to tell them what they must think?
Cry me a river.
Crying? I was sympathizing with your plight. Its not easy keeping an iron grip on a doctrine of infallibility. You try to keep it pure, but before you know it, someone is off thinking on their own and even trying to convince other people. Such things just can't be tolerated. Perhaps a system of scientific excommunication could be used? Wait! Now that I think of it, its already being practiced by the Global Warming folks. There's nothing like using a working model.
Translation:
Of my 3000+ posts you don't have a single one to point to, so you just punt with a wild assertion. That's typical.
You are the poster child of every point I've ever made about people that go way past the facts and demand adherence to their theories. So much so, that you do it in most every post.
Boo hooo. I don't care.
Of course you don't care. I believe you. I really do. Its not easy being you. Take a few deep breaths, yes, yes, I know you're not upset, just breath. Now don't worry, no one thinks you are irrational. Everything will be OK and those nasty ID hobgoblins will go away.
So you didn't read the post I linked to you. Well, I'm not surprised. Its easier to deal with your demons I guess, if you can shove them all into one box.
Interestingly, when I posted roughly the equivalent to what you say above, I got not one single nasty hysterical response from any IDers. You stand alone in that category.
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