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To: Torie; Texasforever; AmishDude
I've been traveling and otherwise occupied so I haven't had the pleasure of watching this latest chest thumping exercise. Rather then rely on the hyperbol being posted I did a little research on John Jacobs and how he became the candidate of choice. I found this little tidbit at the Utah Politics website:

Does the Right Hand Know What the Far Right Hand Doeth?

by Gordon S. Jones

Quarterback Bay Buchanan, of Team America, steps up to the line of scrimmage and surveys the playing field, trying to read the defense:

1. At the Utah Republican Convention she blasts John Jacob as being weak on immigration. She and her organization endorse Merrill Cook (in fact she nominates him) against Chris Cannon in Utah’s Third District.

Fair enough. After all, Jacob had called Tom Tancredo, founder of Team America, “an opportunist,” and implied some harsher things. He also failed the UFIRE interview, provoking a very harsh e-mail attack on him.

2. But Cook lost at convention, leaving Jacob the only anti-Cannon game in town, so Buchanan calls an audible at the line of scrimmage, and Team America comes to Utah with an ad campaign endorsing Jacob.

3. Meantime, however, at a joint interview with the editors of the Provo Daily Herald, Cannon had mentioned the compromise plan being proposed by Indiana Rep. Mike Pence. Oh yes, says Jacob. Pence probably got the idea from me.

4. That is unlikely, since Pence actually got the idea from Helen Krieble of the Vernon Krieble Foundation. You can read Pence’s short description of it here, and the complete Krieble Foundation report here. Utah State Senator Howard Stephenson has mooted a related idea around.

5. But wherever Pence got it, it is doing him no good with Team America. On their website (where you can also see a picture of Chris Cannon with a bull’s eye painted on him) [since taken down — Ed.] there is a vicious attack on Mike Pence and his proposal, and Bay’s brother Pat blitzes Pence in an op-ed posted on TownHall.

So here you have Team America running ads supporting John Jacob whose position on immigration is similar to Mike Pence’s—and Chris Cannon’s for that matter—at the same time Team America targets the former for political annihilation and the latter for…well, who knows?

Time out, and back to the huddle.

NB: the use of the term “right” in the headline is not to be confused with “conservative,” at least as I understand the terms and use them. The “right” in this sense implies a certain cultural and social attitude that is often shared by conservatives, but not always. Sometimes terms like “social conservative” are used to make the distinction, but I prefer to describe myself as a conservative, but not a Man of the Right. By rights, to avoid confusion, I should have modified the headline, but I was so enamored of the wordplay I couldn’t bring myself to do it. Maybe if I could have gotten the football metaphor to work out better….

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I'm not sure how much this is a legitimate campaign for a candidate or just another bumbling effort by the buchanan's to exert influence. What will be interesting is how this will impact their future efforts should their last choice "candidate" loose.

20 posted on 06/26/2006 7:47:43 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson
I'm amazed at the level of insanity that people are descending into around here.
21 posted on 06/26/2006 7:49:00 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: CWOJackson

Yes, I think the election has become more about sending a message, as opposed to any of the gritty little details, and that in the end, may or may not push Jacob over the top, although probably not. As a wild speculative guess, I give Jacob about a 20% chance to win. Beyond sending a message, which of course does have importance, will Jacob have any importance about anything? No.


22 posted on 06/26/2006 7:51:55 PM PDT by Torie
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To: CWOJackson
I GUARANTEE you that late on Tuesday or early on Wednesday there will be a Jacob-lost-but-actually-won thread.

That is a very nice post of yours. Very informative.

27 posted on 06/26/2006 7:55:41 PM PDT by AmishDude (I am the King Nut.)
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To: CWOJackson
I'm not sure how much this is a legitimate campaign for a candidate or just another bumbling effort by the buchanan's to exert influence. What will be interesting is how this will impact their future efforts should their last choice "candidate" loose.

Amen.

And as for impact, they'll spin it into "how close they got". They'll never win, thankfully, but they won't go away.... Too much money to be made!

30 posted on 06/26/2006 7:57:59 PM PDT by Rex Anderson
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To: CWOJackson

Post #20 is irrelevant because it doesn't take into account the pro-illegal comments made by Cannon nor his endorsement by La Raza.


63 posted on 06/26/2006 8:36:13 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Undocumented FReeper)
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To: CWOJackson; Torie; Texasforever; AmishDude

Of course, you are aware that Bay Buchanan is a Mormon and has a home in Utah? In my book that gives here more than a little say in this issue.


89 posted on 06/26/2006 9:17:16 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: CWOJackson
Quarterback Bay Buchanan, of Team America, steps up to the line of scrimmage and surveys the playing field, trying to read the defense: 1. At the Utah Republican Convention she blasts John Jacob as being weak on immigration. She and her organization endorse Merrill Cook (in fact she nominates him) against Chris Cannon in Utah’s Third District. Fair enough. After all, Jacob had called Tom Tancredo, founder of Team America, “an opportunist,” and implied some harsher things.

What a mess.

92 posted on 06/26/2006 9:19:16 PM PDT by FreeReign
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