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Justices: Defendants can hire own lawyers (Scalia sides with LIBS in 5-4 Decision; Alito Dissents)
The AP via Yahoo! News ^ | June 26, 2006 | Toni Locy

Posted on 06/26/2006 1:23:37 PM PDT by new yorker 77

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1 posted on 06/26/2006 1:23:41 PM PDT by new yorker 77
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To: Clintonfatigued; AliVeritas; holdonnow

FYI


2 posted on 06/26/2006 1:24:32 PM PDT by new yorker 77 (FAKE POLLS DO NOT TRANSLATE INTO REAL VOTERS!)
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To: new yorker 77
Clearly Nino is a stealth liberal sleeper cell, activated after a 20 years of solid conservative opinions.

(do I really need a sarcasm tag for this one)

3 posted on 06/26/2006 1:27:19 PM PDT by NeoCaveman (The Latest on the Ohio gov race http://blackwellvstrickland.blogspot.com)
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To: NeoCaveman

Man...so far Alito isn't a dissapointment. I hope he stays away from the dinner parties.


4 posted on 06/26/2006 1:30:43 PM PDT by bkepley
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To: new yorker 77
This could be use to delay death penalty cases for forever...
5 posted on 06/26/2006 1:31:26 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - They want to die for Islam, and we want to kill them.)
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To: new yorker 77
In his first written dissent, Justice Samuel Alito accused Scalia of making "a subtle but important mistake"

Republicans are divided on the issue. It threatens to tear the party asudner!

6 posted on 06/26/2006 1:35:51 PM PDT by frithguild (The Freepers moved as a group, like a school of sharks sweeping toward an unaware and unarmed victim)
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To: bkepley
Man...so far Alito isn't a dissapointment. I hope he stays away from the dinner parties.

He and Roberts have been fantastic, and they don't strike me as the dinner party types, especially Alito.

7 posted on 06/26/2006 1:37:00 PM PDT by NeoCaveman (The Latest on the Ohio gov race http://blackwellvstrickland.blogspot.com)
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To: new yorker 77

Respondent Cuauhtemoc Gonzalez-Lopez was charged with conspiring to distribute marijuana in the Eastern District of Missouri. Upon his arrest, his family secured a lawyer for him (Mr. John Fahle), whom he had never met. Fahle represented Gonzalez-Lopez at an arraignment hearing, but shortly thereafter, Gonzalez-Lopez heard about a California lawyer named Joseph Low, who had recently secured a favorable deal for another defendant in a similar case before the same judge. Gonzalez-Lopez contacted Low and ultimately hired him. Shortly thereafter, Gonzalez-Lopez asked Fahle to withdraw from the case, leaving Low as his sole attorney.

Before the trial, Low applied for formal admission pro hac vice four times and applied for general admission to the Missouri bar, but the trial court denied his motions and tabled his application. The court based its ruling on Low’s alleged violation of a local rule, which, according to the trial court’s interpretation, prohibited lawyers from talking to represented parties without their current lawyer’s permission. On this basis, Low was denied the ability to represent Gonzalez-Lopez at trial.

Low had previously brought in another attorney, Karl Dickhaus, to act as local counsel while his applications for admission were pending. But after Low was denied admission, Dickhaus went on to represent Gonzalez-Lopez at trial in what was Dickhaus’s first federal criminal case. At trial, Low was not permitted to sit next to Gonzalez-Lopez or advise Dickhaus in any way; he was seated in the audience, with a U.S. Marshal placed between him and his client. He was denied the ability to consult with Gonzalez-Lopez until the last day of his trial.


8 posted on 06/26/2006 1:37:36 PM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ("Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto")
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To: new yorker 77

I'll have to read the decision in order to see if I agree with a reporter's charactization of it, but my initial reaction is that this is BS, and Scalia must be losing it.

The only hurdle should be whether one gets adequate legal representation, not who the particular attorney is.

If I have a constitutional right to Clarence Darrow as my attorney, and he happens to be DEAD, that is a problem.


9 posted on 06/26/2006 1:37:45 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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I have to agree, Scalia really blew this one. He's creating all kinds of problems for courts. Suppose that Bruce Cutler, the mob attorney, can't be in court for a particular client because he's already scheduled a trial with a higher-paying client. Is the criminal court judge violating the defendant's right if he refuses to adjourn his trial so Bruce can be there? There's so many potential loopholes that Nino will regret this one. I'll go on record right now that he'll actually see the error of his decision and acknowledge it in a future opinion.


10 posted on 06/26/2006 1:42:56 PM PDT by Kryptonite (Keep Democrats Out of Power!)
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To: new yorker 77
Just on what's in the article, I'd agree with Scalia. If it's a private attorney, not one provided by the State, the client should have the right to decide.
11 posted on 06/26/2006 1:44:29 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: Dog Gone
If I have a constitutional right to Clarence Darrow as my attorney, and he happens to be DEAD, that is a problem.

The lawyer was alive, the defendant wanted to hire him, he had the money to hire him, the lawyer was willing and available, and the judge kept him out of the trial for no good reason. Scalia was right.

12 posted on 06/26/2006 1:46:37 PM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: new yorker 77

Somewhere in America, there's the worst lawyer in America.


13 posted on 06/26/2006 1:48:04 PM PDT by Crawdad (I cried because I had no shoes, until I met a man who had no class.)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

Maybe he should have had the attorney he wanted. But that's no reason to throw out the conviction. Facts are still facts.


14 posted on 06/26/2006 1:51:25 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Lurking Libertarian
This was a state trail and the lawyer was not a member of the state bar therefor he was not a lawyer in that state.
15 posted on 06/26/2006 1:52:19 PM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ("Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto")
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To: colorado tanker

Not if the attorney isn't a member of the state bar where the trial is. Which was apparently the case here.


16 posted on 06/26/2006 1:53:22 PM PDT by DB (©)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

No good reason?

As I understand it the state bar wouldn't allow the lawyer to practice in their state.


17 posted on 06/26/2006 1:54:50 PM PDT by DB (©)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
This was a state trail and the lawyer was not a member of the state bar therefor he was not a lawyer in that state

Hardly a barrier. That's what pro hac vice motions are for.

18 posted on 06/26/2006 1:56:08 PM PDT by gdani
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To: DB
As I understand it the state bar wouldn't allow the lawyer to practice in their state.

The judge ordered him not to even talk to the local lawyer.

19 posted on 06/26/2006 1:57:27 PM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: Dog Gone
"If I have a constitutional right to Clarence Darrow as my attorney, and he happens to be DEAD, that is a problem."
Nope. Scalia in his wisdom saw right through you: "Nor can defendants insist on counsel who are not members of the bar". Being dead, Darrow is no longer a member.
20 posted on 06/26/2006 1:58:00 PM PDT by GSlob
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