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Israel Needs A Preemptive Nuclear Strike Against Iran
The Israel News Agency ^ | June 24, 2006 | Jonathan Ariel

Posted on 06/24/2006 1:32:23 PM PDT by IsraelBeach

Israel Needs A Preemptive Nuclear Strike Against Iran

By Jonathan Ariel
Israel News Agency

Jerusalem ----- June 24...... One of the best ways to ensure the world doesn’t get wobbly over Iran, is to make it understand that although Israel prefers to regard the rogue Islamic regime as an international problem, we will, if necessary, do whatever it takes to ensure our survival, including a preemptive nuclear strike.

In 1936, when Hitler marched into the Rhineland the allies appeased him, even though they could have been in Berlin in two weeks. In 1938 they once again let him off the hook, even though the allies could have been in Berlin within two months. Shortly after the appeasement of Munich, Russia signed a non-aggression treaty with Hitler, setting the stage for what it hoped would be his defeat of the West, which would pave the way for Russian domination of Eurasia, from Lisbon to Vladivostok.

Now we have Iran, a country led by Ahmadinejad, an equally deranged and evil maniac. He is driven by an ideology combining elements of Nazism and Mahdism, with a tad of Maoism as well, a lethal cocktail of three of the most evil ideologies of human political history.

By most current intelligence estimates, by 2008, exactly 70 years after Chamberlain announced on his return from Munich he had achieved “peace in our time”, the Iranian Islamo-Nazi regime will have succeeded in developing an atomic bomb. Although it seems that the international community has belatedly begun to awaken to the danger, it is still far from certain that this will actually lead to concrete and concerted steps to ensure this doesn’t happen.

Moreover, even if the West does get its act together, three is no guarantee that Russia will not revert to course, enacting a repeat performance of the Molotov-Ribbentrob pact. Putin seriously mulling double crossing the West.

This week new and highly disturbing evidence came to light that this is exactly what Russia is doing. According to a western intelligence report published earlier this week, satellite images showed large volumes of heavy Russian weaponry heading towards Iran. The weapons belonged to Russian military units evacuating Georgia, as part of the Russian-Georgian agreement signed in March, which calls for all Russian troops to be withdrawn from Georgian soil.

The Russians were evacuating their two big Soviet-era military bases in Georgia on the shores of the Black Sea – the 12th base in Batumi and the 62nd at Akhalkalaki to the north, 19 miles from the Turkish border. The mages revealed the retreating Russian units moving along not one but two routes. The first showed small groups of Russian officers and soldiers heading out of Georgia carrying only their personal kits, the second was jammed with convoys of trucks loaded with weapons and logistical systems, radar and ammo.

Freight trains were also pressed into service. This route wound out of Georgia and headed into Armenia where the vehicles halted at the Russian base near Gyumri. A Russian military spokesman explained this relocation by stating that “the property of the 62nd (Akhalkalaki), Georgia, would be reassigned to replenish Russia’s 102nd base in Gyumri, Armenia.” He added: “The transfer of this property to any other party is not envisioned.”

However Armenia was not the “the property’s” last stop. The close watch on the Russian supplies convoys continued and, lo and behold, a third route surfaced, this one heading out of the 102nd base in Armenia and into Iran.

Western military sources have traced the route these weapons took. From Gyumri, the trucks and trains rolled on to the Armenian capital of Yerevan. There, they were offloaded onto Armenian and Iranian trucks and trains, which turned south to the Iranian border. The freight crossed the border and halted at the Iranian town of Sadarak. Its next stop was the Iranian-Azeri town of Naxcivan and then on to Tabriz. Subsequent shipments by truck and rail followed the same route, They included APCs, heavy artillery, Grad rockets, BM-21mm missiles and anti-aircraft systems.

So far this year, Iran has purchased over $7 billion for arms from Russia, including anti-air, nuclear-capable Tor-M1 cruise missiles, considered by experts the most advanced of its kind in the world. Iran has purchased these missiles to secure the Bushehr atomic reactor and other nuclear sites. These sources say that Teheran is using the Georgian weapons deal as bait, to get Moscow to part with weapons and technologies it has so far refrained from passing over to the ayatollahs, specifically technology transfers enabling Iran to begin domestic production of the sophisticated Russian X-5518 nuclear cruise missiles, known also as Kh-55 or AS-15s.

Tehran already has a dozen of these missiles, which have a 3,000km range and are capable of carrying a 200-kiloton nuclear warhead. They were purchased on the black market of Ukraine in 2005. Teheran has reportedly promised to significantly increase its purchase of conventional weapons from Russia, if it agrees to the missile technology transfer.

Despite the uncertainty as to whether Russia (and possibly China as well) would cooperate with the West regarding Iran, the conventional wisdom has remained unchanged, namely that Iran is an international problem, being dealt with accordingly by the international community, and that Israel should therefore take a back seat.

Nothing could be further from the truth. The world needs to understand very clearly that Israel cannot and will not allow a Holocaust –denying regime that openly calls for its destruction to wield a nuclear bomb. Israel needs to make it very clear that the consequence of it having to face a nuclear Iran by itself will be a preemptive strike against Iran.

The more the international community gets the message that the consequences of appeasement will be worse than those of action, the better the chances of action. The growing evidence of Russian perfidy makes it even more important that there be no room for misunderstandings in this regard. The best way to get that message across is to make it very clear that if Israel is faced between an Iran nuclear bomb, or having to launch a preemptive nuclear strike to prevent that eventuality, it will opt for the latter.

The world must be told loud and clear by Israel that the only way to avoid the first nuclear strike by a nation since Nagasaki is to take whatever actions are required to ensure Iran doesn’t get the bomb, and to prevent an Iranian conventional weapons build up to the point where a preemptive nuclear strike becomes the only option for dealing with the rogue ayatollah regime.

Jonathan Ariel, was an advisor to the South African government and is a former editor-in-chief of the Israel on-line Maariv International. He has filled numerous positions with well known Israel and international media organizations such as Maariv, Makor Rishon, Jerusalem Post, Ha'aretz, The International Herald Tribune, Israel Radio, SABC and the Independent Foreign Service. These include Managing-Editor of Makor Rishon and Editor-in-Chief of Maariv International. He has been interviewed and quoted by leading media organizations such as the LA Times, The Economist, The Guardian, The New York Sun, Times of India, The Australian, Sunday Times and the BBC. His articles have been translated into over a dozen major languages, including German, Danish, Dutch, Italian, Serbo-Croatian, Spanish, French, Arabic, Japanese, Korean and Chinese. He has degrees in Political Science and Journalism. He speaks English and Hebrew at mother tongue level, French, Dutch (Afrikaans) fluently.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: defense; iran; islam; israel; mondalewouldapprove; neveragain; nuclear; terror; terrorism
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To: Sic Luceat Lux
explain how internal you want to get?

And btw, I'm sure the Israelis have a fairly good idea of where their neutron weaponry will be deployed.

81 posted on 06/24/2006 2:59:42 PM PDT by Sic Luceat Lux
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To: Sic Luceat Lux

"Good post, however - we both here - need to understand -that with so many military sites to hit in Iran that either do have/or might have nuclear weaponry - you need to explain how internal you want to get?"

I think I've already made my opinion on the matter quite clear.

I do find something of a contradiction in your characterisation of the Iranian leadership as 'insane' (presumably on the basis of rhetoric about destroying Israel), yet you are (apparantly?) prepared to endorse the destruction of Iran by Israel as a sane and rational action.


82 posted on 06/24/2006 3:00:57 PM PDT by Canard
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To: Sic Luceat Lux
I agree. Intelligence will play a part to the success of the attack. Remember, they launched that satellite a couple of months ago.
83 posted on 06/24/2006 3:02:38 PM PDT by garbageseeker (Gentleman, you can't fight in here, this is the War Room - Dr. Strangelove)
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To: chrismich2610
why isn`t in israel`s and our interest for israel to lob nukes

Don't know about discussing what is in our "interest" but for Israel, it is totally indisputable - they will Not allow Iran to incinerate them. And I repeat - Never Again! ----
So, no matter what we all discuss here, the bottom line - is that Israel will pop Iran with neutron weapons when and if they deem it necessary - and I myself - Agree!

84 posted on 06/24/2006 3:03:19 PM PDT by Sic Luceat Lux
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To: Bon mots
After Iran has been reduced to a large glazed plain of smoking green glass, all the oil underneath is perfectly usable!

Ariel Sharon said this, "The Arabs may have the oil, but we have the matches".
85 posted on 06/24/2006 3:05:08 PM PDT by garbageseeker (Gentleman, you can't fight in here, this is the War Room - Dr. Strangelove)
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To: Canard
I do find something of a contradiction in your characterisation of the Iranian leadership as 'insane' (presumably on the basis of rhetoric about destroying Israel), yet you are (apparantly?) prepared to endorse the destruction of Iran by Israel as a sane and rational action.

Why of course!
How many times do you need to read this here. Israel has - since Israel was first a nation - flat out stated - "Never Again!"

What is it about "Never Again" - that you don't understand Canard?

86 posted on 06/24/2006 3:06:04 PM PDT by Sic Luceat Lux
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To: garbageseeker

"Why have the United States do it? Right now we have our hands full."

Our air force couldn't take out the Iranian nuke site because what? We have our hands full right now? That's patently absurd. We are quite capable of taking out those sites without Israeli help. It's almost as unrealistic saying we have to rely on another military power to take out the Iranian nuclear facilities, as it is suggesting that we preemptively nuke Iran.

From some of your previous posts on this subject, I see you must be a meterologist because you've got the winds figured out for the radioactive fallout. There's something oddly fascinating, in a kind of morbid way, about listening to a guy that's got a nuclear conflagration all figured out, so rational, so sanitized. You remind me of Dr. Strangelove; I just picture you choking yourself with your other hand.


87 posted on 06/24/2006 3:06:37 PM PDT by AdvisorB
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To: Mr.Smorch

While 60% to 70% may "hate the Ayatollahs and Mullahs" the fact remains that they are not/can not do squat about the Ayatollahs and the Mullahs. So, you have this on-the-record nutbar as the head of the government. So, if nutbar get a nuke and decides to nuke Israel, then 60%-70% of whoever the heck they are are going to die, plus some. It's choose your option time. No option in this situation is a good one. So, the 60%-70% had better get with the program, see the train coming through the tunnel and give themselves a chance.


88 posted on 06/24/2006 3:12:59 PM PDT by alarm rider (Irritating leftists as often as is humanly possible....)
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To: TomSmedley

Iran is filled with people who love America, hate their rulers, and are more receptive to the gospel than they have been for a millenium.

I keep hearing that Iran is filled with people who can't wait to get Starbucks, but they seem to be invisible. If the majority of the population hates the mullahs, there sure aren't a lot of outward signs of it.

89 posted on 06/24/2006 3:13:59 PM PDT by RedRover (Fire Jack Murtha. Support Diana Irey for Congress.)
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To: Sic Luceat Lux

Well, that pretty much avoided the point completely.


90 posted on 06/24/2006 3:15:51 PM PDT by Canard
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To: IsraelBeach

bump


91 posted on 06/24/2006 3:17:40 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Europe and the rest of the world can have the World Cup; the USA just settle for World Domination.)
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To: garbageseeker
"Better clean up and disperse that huge hot pile at Dimona before you go talking smack."

"That facility is extremely well defended with anti-aircraft missiles, they have a special detachment of IDF airplanes and they have Patriot missile batteries." Who says that Israel has nukes?
Israel could borrow one or two from the US. And if Israel did have nukes, why only in Dimona - why not under Chinese restaurants in B'nei Brak which serve as "front" platforms ;>

That was a good spin, a clever diversion talking about Dimona when the issue here is Iran threatening Israel with nuclear weapons!

This is a NEVER AGAIN - NO SPIN MILITARY ZONE - NO MIRROR AND SMOKE PHOTOGRAPHY ALLOWED!

92 posted on 06/24/2006 3:20:47 PM PDT by IsraelBeach
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To: Mr.Smorch
Our air force couldn't take out the Iranian nuke site because what? We have our hands full right now?

We have 135,000 troops and including air support in Iraq right now.The air support in Iraq is busy with hunting down terrorists and providing support from the troops. We have 100,000 troops along with their air support in South Korea.The IDF is more than capable to take care Iran alone We are very busy with other matters.

There's something oddly fascinating, in a kind of morbid way, about listening to a guy that's got a nuclear conflagration all figured out, so rational, so sanitized

I am not a meteorologist but I do study weather patterns. I study the art of nuclear combat and read books by Doctor Herman Kahn who I am a student.War has become very sanitized and rational because advanced physics and science has made it that way. The days are gone where you can touch and smell your enemy before you killed him.Ironically, I do have a picture of Dr. Strangelove on the desktop wallpaper of my computer.
93 posted on 06/24/2006 3:20:47 PM PDT by garbageseeker (Gentleman, you can't fight in here, this is the War Room - Dr. Strangelove)
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To: Canard
Well, that pretty much avoided the point completely.

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"...although Israel prefers to regard the rogue Islamic regime as an international problem, we will, if necessary, do whatever it takes to ensure our survival, including a preemptive nuclear strike.

Amen!

94 posted on 06/24/2006 3:21:23 PM PDT by Sic Luceat Lux
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To: IsraelBeach
I am not going to give you answer a ridiculous post like that. I hope that you are being sarcastic.
95 posted on 06/24/2006 3:22:57 PM PDT by garbageseeker (Gentleman, you can't fight in here, this is the War Room - Dr. Strangelove)
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To: IsraelBeach

I absolutely ditto your post #92!


96 posted on 06/24/2006 3:23:25 PM PDT by Sic Luceat Lux
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To: All
In as far as the article goes and what Israel means here:

Never Again! - -- -- - -- --- - Period!

97 posted on 06/24/2006 3:27:07 PM PDT by Sic Luceat Lux
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To: Sic Luceat Lux
Mysterio, first and foremost -is the fact that Israel will allow Iran or anyone to incinerate them!

And by striking first, they virtually guarantee their own destruction. That's why they won't do it. And we probably won't either, luckily.

It absolutely will work perfectly.

If the goal is to draw the entire Middle East and eventually the world into a bloody nuclear war, then yes, it will work perfectly.

There will no longer be a nuke threat to Israel from the insane Iranian's in power.

You assume 100% destruction of nuclear targets. Ok, let's assume 100%. The conventional threat to Israel would be even worse, because countries are hesitant to use nuclear weapons. They are much more comfortable with a conventional war, which would be long and bloody, even if it were only the US and Israel against the Middle East. And it certainly would not be limited to just the Middle East. The entire world would be drawn in.

Israel will under no circumstances let itself be incinerated/ (as was the case with millions of Jews in WWII being pitched right into the crematoriums). This is absolutely indisputable. Won't happen!

I agree. That's why they won't start a pre-emptive nuclear war.

In Iran, internally?? - - well, they won't be here anymore!

You now advocate Israel expanding its pre-emptive nuclear war to include wiping out all of Iran? Wow.

I understand your distaste for extreme Islamofascism. I share your distaste. But you are allowing it to cloud your judgement. The scenario I outlined is almost certain to happen if a pre-emptive nuclear war is initiated. Your logic is flawed.
98 posted on 06/24/2006 3:27:42 PM PDT by mysterio
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To: IsraelBeach
The guy asked a question about Dimona and I answered it. nothing more nothing less.
99 posted on 06/24/2006 3:28:02 PM PDT by garbageseeker (Gentleman, you can't fight in here, this is the War Room - Dr. Strangelove)
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To: IsraelBeach

Your attacking the person who is supporting you.


100 posted on 06/24/2006 3:28:49 PM PDT by garbageseeker (Gentleman, you can't fight in here, this is the War Room - Dr. Strangelove)
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