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To: Republican Wildcat

I didn't see anything in there that says the sarin was in binary form. Sure, it's still dangerous to handle, but has any of it been useful since the Iraq/Iran war? Nothing I've read suggests that it was.


35 posted on 06/23/2006 10:25:12 PM PDT by Quick1 (There is no Theory of Evolution. Just a list of animals Chuck Norris allows to live.)
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To: Quick1

So what you are saying - or implying - is that if it isn't in "binary form" we could have it released into the air in the quantities found and it wouldn't kill people?


42 posted on 06/23/2006 10:35:56 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Quick1

"I didn't see anything in there that says the sarin was in binary form."

Here you go:

Washington officials say the significance of the find is that some chemical shells do still exist in Iraq, and it's thought that fighters there may be upping their attacks on U.S. forces by using such weapons.

The round was an old "binary-type" shell in which two chemicals held in separate sections are mixed after firing to produce sarin, Kimmitt said.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,120137,00.html

Another one here:


16 May 2004: 152mm Binary Chemical Improvised Explosive Device

A military unit near Baghdad Airport reported a suspect IED along the main road between the airport and the Green Zone (see figure 2). The munitions were remotely detonated and the remaining liquid tested positive in ISG field labs for the nerve agent Sarin and a key Sarin degradation product.


The partially detonated IED was an old prototype binary nerve agent munitions of the type Iraq declared it had field tested in the late 1980s. The munitions bear no markings, much like the sulfur mustard round reported on 2 May (see Figure 3). Insurgents may have looted or purchased the rounds believing they were conventional high explosive 155mm rounds. The use of this type of round as an IED does not allow sufficient time for mixing of the binary compounds and release in an effective manner, thus limiting the dispersal area of the chemicals.

http://www.cia.gov/cia/reports/iraq_wmd_2004/chap5_annxF.html




So, yes, Iraq had them, and we found them. How many of the over 500 were binary? I don't know. The report is a summary and doesn't say. But this shows that at least 2 were. We know Sen. Santorum would like the rest of the report declassified, and I dare say there are other reports out there that probably would shed a lot more light on this issue.


45 posted on 06/23/2006 10:40:35 PM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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To: Quick1
"I didn't see anything in there that says the sarin was in binary form. Sure, it's still dangerous to handle, but has any of it been useful since the Iraq/Iran war? Nothing I've read suggests that it was."

You say:

1. It is not binary.

2. It is dangerous to handle.

3. We don't know if it is "usefull."

Did I get that right?

So what is your point? Is it not harmful? Want a sniff? Is it not WMD?

80 posted on 06/24/2006 12:10:55 PM PDT by MonroeDNA (Mohhamed drank urine from female pigs.)
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