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1 posted on 06/23/2006 2:09:37 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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I am really sick of the press....so now they are going to whine...the administration is defending themselves..

SCUM.....lowlife scum sucking....&%#!@^!!!!

2 posted on 06/23/2006 2:11:19 PM PDT by Dog (149 Democratic Members of the party of Harry Truman Voted Against Victory..)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Defends??? I insist on it.

I really sense the media has sunk the democrats. They are the enemy's newspapers.

3 posted on 06/23/2006 2:11:21 PM PDT by Williams
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"Although there is no direct connection, the programme has echoes of a recently revealed US surveillance programme in which millions of international and domestic phone calls and e-mails were monitored, correspondents say."

Bull!


4 posted on 06/23/2006 2:11:35 PM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Bill Keller needs to be held accountable for the damage he has done to the security of this country.
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This SH!T has GOT to STOP!!!


5 posted on 06/23/2006 2:11:36 PM PDT by digger48
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

The New York Times should be closed as a subversive organisation and anyone caught with one of their papers be prosecuted for financing terror.


6 posted on 06/23/2006 2:13:03 PM PDT by sgtbono2002 (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

You realize Bush's poll numbers went up to 44%. So they had to come out with this!!!
This is the same method the US government uses to track drug dealers and mafia money. All legal.
Ping me if it's not..


7 posted on 06/23/2006 2:14:39 PM PDT by griswold3 (Ken Blackwell, Ohio Governor in 2006- No!! You cannot have my governor in 2008.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
The New York Slimes - Al Qaeda's intel department.
10 posted on 06/23/2006 2:20:52 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

The government needs to show some balls and obtain subpoenas against these reporters revealing these classified programs so we can find out their sources.

If the NYT believes they have a constitutional right to reveal classified programs without having to reveal their sources and without legal penalty, let them try that argument in court. Most of the American people will, I believe, side with the government and not the NYT when it comes to revealing classified surveillance methods used against terrorists.

The media has changed. In World War II, the major media would never have published something like this, tipping off the enemy to our methods of surveillance.

So now it's time for law enforcement to change, too. We need to prosecute those revealing these classified programs. If we need new laws so that reporters can be convicted as well as the source, so be it. We do have, and ought to have, a method by which whistleblowers can reveal wrong-doing within the government. This does not appear to fall within that exception.


11 posted on 06/23/2006 2:22:37 PM PDT by SirJohnBarleycorn
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FR Post on the NY Times article:

Bank Data Secretly Reviewed by U.S. to Fight Terror

And Washington Post article:

Bank Records Secretly Tapped
Administration Began Using Global Database Shortly After 2001 Attacks

*****************AN EXCERPT *******************************************

Terrorism investigators had sought access to SWIFT's database since the 1990s, but other government and industry authorities balked at the potential blow to confidence in the banking system. After the 2001 attacks, President Bush overrode those objections and invoked his powers under the International Emergency Economic Powers Act to "investigate, regulate or prohibit" any foreign financial transaction linked to "an unusual and extraordinary threat."

Levey and other officials emphasized that the government has confined its financial surveillance to legitimate terrorism investigations and tightly targeted searches.

After identifying a suspect, Levey said, "you can do a search, and you can determine whom he sent money to, and who sent money to him."

"The way the SWIFT data works, you would have all kinds of concrete information -- addresses, phone numbers, real names, account numbers, a lot of stuff we can really work with, the kind of actionable information that government officials can really follow up on," Levey said.

He spoke about the program after it became clear the New York Times was planning to publish an article about it. The Times and other news organizations posted articles online last night.

Levey maintained that the government has "put into place very robust controls to make sure we are only using this information for anti-terrorism purposes."

13 posted on 06/23/2006 2:25:26 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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Anybody who thinks that international funds transfers are secret and confidential should ask Manuel Noriega and Pablo Escobar, amongst others.

The interesting thing to me is that they finally convinced SWIFT to open its records. That has been sought ever since the WOD started. SWIFT resisted furiously throughout the 1980s.

Maybe 9/11 made believers out of some Belgians, too.

14 posted on 06/23/2006 2:26:02 PM PDT by WarEagle (Karl Rove did it....)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

this would be great in the fight against pornography and gambling.


15 posted on 06/23/2006 2:36:05 PM PDT by balch3
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

And Interpol has done it for years in Europe, big deal about nothing.


17 posted on 06/23/2006 2:55:24 PM PDT by 1066AD
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
The stench within the "Intelligence Community" is unbearable!

I hope this liberal "whistle-blower" is caught and prosecuted.

18 posted on 06/23/2006 3:15:12 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I'm not sure what all the hoopla on the left is about. My understanding is that the information that the government was analyzing was openly available. It's not like they were tapping phones or spying on anyone. They were crunching numbers and plowing through information available to any central bank through entirely legal channels.


35 posted on 06/23/2006 5:40:21 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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