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1 posted on 06/23/2006 12:31:19 PM PDT by oxcart
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Where is a good mechanic when you need one?


2 posted on 06/23/2006 12:34:53 PM PDT by verity (The MSM is comprised of useless eaters)
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"the pendulum, as far as public disclosure versus national security, has swung in the direction of public disclosure"

Of course. Because public disclosure of something that affects nobody but terrorists is more important than fighting those terrorists.

3 posted on 06/23/2006 12:35:17 PM PDT by Numbers Guy
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Since when are reporters the legal arbiters of what is classified and what is not classified?

These asshats need to be tried for treason. And when convicted, they need to be shot, which is the penalty for treason during a time of war.

And no, I'm not kidding.


5 posted on 06/23/2006 12:36:43 PM PDT by piytar
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"the pendulum, as far as public disclosure versus national security, has swung in the direction of public disclosure...."

That's the perception because we haven't had a major terrorist act in the US since 9-11. However, these treasonous asshats are doing everything they can to expose the methods GW and the administraion have used to prevent an attack. The inevitable result will be a major attack in the US sooner rather than later.

And then these traitors will want to play the "blame Bush" game.

I'll want to play the "try them, convict them, and then execute them" game -- as will most Americans. And yes, I am referring to both the terrorists and the traitorous reporters here.


8 posted on 06/23/2006 12:41:01 PM PDT by piytar
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I never understood how reporters can publish the most highly classified information with absolute impunity, while anybody else that was found in possession of such information would be locked up for years.
11 posted on 06/23/2006 12:42:08 PM PDT by apillar
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To: oxcart

How does he explain his treason?


12 posted on 06/23/2006 12:44:29 PM PDT by Dionysius
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Evil personified:


15 posted on 06/23/2006 12:51:04 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember (No program, no ideas, no clue: The democrats!)
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""I think we came down on the same side in both questions," he said of the two stories. "That this is not giving away information that is tangibly helping terrorists know what they don't already know." "

And how exactly would he know what the terrorist already know????

18 posted on 06/23/2006 12:54:38 PM PDT by whatexit
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A Yahoo search of the what this wuss has put out before, shows that he is probably another outraged marxist homosexual drive by journalist, employed by the Ny Slimes.

http://www.commondreams.org/cgi-bin/print.cgi?file=/headlines03/0606-08.htm


Published on Friday, June 6, 2003 by the New York Times
Justice Dept. Bans Event by Gay Staff
by Eric Lichtblau

WASHINGTON, June 5 — The Justice Department has barred a group of employees from holding their annual gay pride event at the department's headquarters, the first time such an event has been blocked by any federal agency, gay rights leaders said today.

Justice Department officials told the group, called DOJ Pride, that it could not hold its annual event at the department because the White House had not formally recognized Gay Pride Month with a presidential proclamation, Marina Colby, a department policy analyst who is president of the group, said. The group represents several hundred gay and lesbian employees at the department.

"This sends a real chilling message to Justice Department employees who are gay and lesbian," said David Smith, a spokesman for Human Rights Campaign, the country's largest gay advocacy group.

"This says, `You're not welcome,' " Mr. Smith said. "It says that employees can celebrate Asian-American heritage month, and Hispanic heritage month and so on, but you cannot."

Barbara Comstock, a spokeswoman for the Justice Department, refused to comment.

The gay pride event has been a tradition at the Justice Department since the late 90's, organizers said, and many other federal agencies have held similar events since the mid-1990's, when President Bill Clinton first declared a Gay Pride Month.

Last year Deputy Attorney General Larry Thompson — the second-ranking official at the department — spoke to about 150 people at the event in the Great Hall of the department. Ms. Colby said the presence of such a high-ranking official "was a really big deal for us, a real sign of support."

But Mr. Thompson's appearance drew protests from some conservative groups. Some accused Attorney General John Ashcroft, a social conservative who has spoken out in the past about homosexuality, of abandoning them by allowing last year's event to proceed.

Public Advocate, a nonprofit group that describes itself as pro-family, has continued lobbying the Justice Department and other federal agencies in recent months to abandon the gay pride events because it says the events are an inappropriate use of federal resources, said Jesse Binnall, a group spokesman.

Told of the decision to cancel this year's Justice Department event, Mr. Binnall said today, "We're absolutely thrilled that the Justice Department has made such a bold decision to stand up for American families instead of giving in to special interest groups."

Gay Republicans have become a more vocal force in party politics of late, but President Bush, unlike Mr. Clinton, has refused to issue a proclamation declaring a Gay Pride Month. The White House has said that the president does not believe "in politicizing people's sexual orientation."

Mr. Bush has issued more than 250 proclamations, acknowledging events like Greek Independence Day, Leif Erikson Day, Save Your Vision Week and National Hospice Month.

This is the first time any federal agency has forced the cancellation of a gay pride event, Mr. Smith said.

Ethnic and racial groups have held annual events at the Justice Department. But Ms. Colby, the leader of DOJ Pride, said the gay pride event was the only one she knew of at the Justice Department that was not covered by a presidential proclamation, and she believed that the Justice Department was using the proclamation issue as a convenient way to cancel the event.

Ms. Colby said she feared that other events that her group holds at the department, like panel discussions, could also be in jeopardy and that the existence of the group could be threatened.

"This was a total surprise to us," she said of the decision to block the event. "Every other association at the department has its recognized month and event, except us."


22 posted on 06/23/2006 12:56:06 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (There's a dwindling market for Marxist Homosexual Lunatic wet dreams posing as journalism)
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What the Times has done is narrowly legal, like it or not. It is obnoxious. It is potentially dangerous. It is a typical NYT drive-by shooting; aimed at Bush but likely to hit innocent Americans. But publication alone is not illegal.

As for the leaker or leakers though - that's another story. Trading in national security secrets in a time of war merits severe punishment - up to and including the death penalty. Want to stop the leaks? Start enforcing the Espionage Act. Make the Times' reporters give up the names, and throw them in jail for contempt if they refuse. The First Amendment is not a suicide pact. It protects the Times' right to publish, but does not allow them to traffic in national security matters without having to reveal the names of lawbreakers who feed them our secrets and threaten American lives. Let's let the Supreme Court chew on that one.

27 posted on 06/23/2006 1:06:25 PM PDT by andy58-in-nh
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1606093/posts

Lichtblau should have been fired after this piece of criminal cover-up. The testimony of the FISA judges was misrepresented to try to save his and Risen's original report . The next week, they got the Pulitzer instead.


34 posted on 06/23/2006 2:44:19 PM PDT by gusopol3
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http://www.why-war.com/news/author.php?name=Eric+Lichtblau is a blogsite that suggests this Lichtblau guy is deeply involved in efforts to stop the United States from mounting a defense against the terrorists attacking us.


38 posted on 06/23/2006 3:47:41 PM PDT by muawiyah (-)
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Michelle Malkin has some very good "21st Century Posters" showing up the NYSlimes for being the traitors they really are. Check them out (also see her trackbacks for more posters at other blogs).
39 posted on 06/23/2006 9:39:06 PM PDT by auzerais (Congress is the only whorehouse in America that loses money)
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Congress should pass a new law that says beating the living $#!) out of a journalist is equivalent to jaywalking and a $25 fine.
41 posted on 06/23/2006 9:51:34 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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The "New York Times" and "Washington Post" are not monolithic faceless alien oracles.

They are run by the the likes of the leftist homosexual on the right, ARTHUR SULZBERGER JR, and the socialist crook on the left, DONALD GRAHAM, Chair and CEO of Newsweek and Washington Post, son of CATHERINE GRAHAM MEYER, former owner of the Washington Post.

Every day these 2 enemies of the state unleash a horde of minor league propagandists on the American psyche in a blatant attempt to topple any GOP government that is elected by the American people.

They do not care if innocent civilians or soldiers die as a result and national security be damned.

2006 is the year they will be stopped.

They will no longer be able to hide unde a cloak of annonymity.

They will be exposed and their names equated with treacherous acts.

They and their komrades will be surveilled and brought up on charges.

OFFICERS

Chairman Emeritus: Arthur Ochs "Punch" Sulzberger, age 71, $1,397,200 pay (prior to title change)

Chairman; Publisher, The New York Times: Arthur Ochs Sulzberger Jr., age 46, $960,200 pay (prior to promotion)

VC and SVP: Michael Golden, age 48

President and CEO: Russell T. Lewis, age 50, $882,235 pay (prior to promotion)

SVP Operations and Acting CFO: John M. O'Brien, age 54

SVP and Deputy COO: David L. Gorham, $796,000 pay

43 posted on 06/24/2006 11:56:57 AM PDT by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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A lot of people are reflexively mad at the reporter, Eric Lichtblau, and his left-wing newspaper, the NY Times, but in one way they are doing us a favor.

The classified information came from a traitor within the CIA or some related organization, after all. It's not as though Eric Lichtblau has a security clearance and is simply publishing something given to him legally.

The real crime is being committed by the leaker. The leaker's name is still unknown.

But given enough leaks, we'll eventually find the leaker...so at some level Eric Lichtblau is going to help us catch her.

45 posted on 06/24/2006 12:05:54 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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But Lichtblau stressed that the paper gave as much consideration to the White House concerns on the banking story as on the wiretapping report

Translation: "Lawyers quickly said the NYT could get away with it (again)".

It's a win-win for the MSM. If America gets attacked again not only will they sell more papers (and news media in general) but they can then blame Bush for "not protecting us". I believe that's their goal.

46 posted on 06/24/2006 12:12:20 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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An even bigger problem are people in government who are leaking classified information to Times reporters.

It's like securing our borders, we can't decide what to do about those already here until we make sure no one else gets in.
48 posted on 06/24/2006 12:21:39 PM PDT by Brytani (Someone stole my tagline - reward for its return!!!)
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