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This is unbelievable! If the NYT got wind of Enigma in 1939, would they feel obliged to publish it "because of public interest"? This is insane
1 posted on 06/22/2006 5:03:44 PM PDT by Norman Rogers
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Who is releasing this information? Why are they not in handcuffs?


2 posted on 06/22/2006 5:04:58 PM PDT by marron
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Why are we not freaking prosecuting these people?


3 posted on 06/22/2006 5:05:46 PM PDT by ark_girl
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I thought this was another attack against the Swiftvets


4 posted on 06/22/2006 5:05:48 PM PDT by RDTF ("We love death. The US loves life. That is the big difference between us two.” Osama Bin laden)
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To: Norman Rogers; potlatch; ntnychik; Smartass; Boazo; Alamo-Girl; PhilDragoo; ...

hang 'em high.


5 posted on 06/22/2006 5:06:39 PM PDT by bitt ("Land of the Free, because of the Brave...")
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"A thousand thanks for giving me this information. May Allah look kindly on your assistance in our Fatwa against the infadels!"

Your friend and ally,

Osama bin Laden

7 posted on 06/22/2006 5:10:06 PM PDT by paul in cape
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The program, run out of the Central Intelligence Agency and overseen by the Treasury Department, "has provided us with a unique and powerful window into the operations of terrorist networks and is, without doubt, a legal and proper use of our authorities," Stuart Levey, an undersecretary at the Treasury Department, said in an interview Thursday.

I take it that the President no longer wanted it to be secret. Maybe to head off more scandal from unplanned leaks.

9 posted on 06/22/2006 5:12:02 PM PDT by The Red Zone
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So how many classified programs has NYT compromised?
I've lost count.


10 posted on 06/22/2006 5:14:16 PM PDT by james500
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Well now wasn't there something called "Able Danger", it is not as though government has never ever collected data.


12 posted on 06/22/2006 5:15:13 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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Right on, if I was in the government in a position to do so, I would march over and arrest a bunch of them on this story.


15 posted on 06/22/2006 5:17:14 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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Under a secret Bush administration program

What is the definition of sedition? Look in the dictionary under New Your Times.....

16 posted on 06/22/2006 5:17:45 PM PDT by Ben Mugged
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Memo to the New York Times: don't expose and thereby compromise secret national defense programs. I know this is counterintuitive for you when everyone you respect has orgasms everytime you harm the USA this way.
17 posted on 06/22/2006 5:19:21 PM PDT by NutCrackerBoy
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You notice that within a day, unnamed "intelligence officials" were claiming that the newly reported WMD were of no importance. Now we have intelligence people spilling more beans on the front page of the New York Times.

The CIA mutiny is still underway. What are you going to do about it, Mr. President?

Revealing classified information to the enemy is still a crime. The supposedly disgruntled officer who does it is still a double agent. It doesn't matter that he uses the front page of the newspaper as his drop. If the enemy has to decode the secret message left under a culvert, or if he can read is in plain text with his morning coffee, the effect is the same. Wartime information has been purposely revealed to the enemy.

In peace-time that rates life in prison. Just ask Aldrich Ames. He's probably kicking himself for not using the Times to transmit his data. He'd be a media hero today, enjoying his CIA retirement with his KGB supplement, and no one could say boo.

In war-time, the penalty should be something more than prison; in war-time, spilling information to the enemy should rate being dropkicked into the ocean after a long and detailed interrogation.


21 posted on 06/22/2006 5:26:09 PM PDT by marron
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Islamists have been aware of the paper trail of money transfers, for centuries.

Everytime enemies of Islamists start using bank records or banking industry tips to close the net on Islamists, the hawala networks in the New World is increased in strength.

Hawala will overcome this attempt to encapsulate their money transferring systems.


23 posted on 06/22/2006 5:34:22 PM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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"... secret ..." ????

It's not secret anymore - what a bunch of dunces!


25 posted on 06/22/2006 6:18:27 PM PDT by CyberAnt (Drive-By Media: Fake news, fake documents, fake polls)
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I wonder what would happen if the home-grown or foreign terrorists could be convinced that the US would fall apart if they blew up the NYTs. I mean if they think the Sears tower will bring us to our knees....


32 posted on 06/22/2006 8:22:09 PM PDT by tiki
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Sulzberger is disloyal.


33 posted on 06/23/2006 3:05:01 AM PDT by aculeus
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From the article ...

The Bush administration has made no secret of its campaign to disrupt terrorist financing, and President Bush, Treasury officials and others have spoken publicly about those efforts. Administration officials, however, asked The New York Times not to publish this article, saying that disclosure of the Swift program could jeopardize its effectiveness. They also enlisted several current and former officials, both Democrat and Republican, to vouch for its value.

Bill Keller, the newspaper's executive editor, said: "We have listened closely to the administration's arguments for withholding this information, and given them the most serious and respectful consideration. We remain convinced that the administration's extraordinary access to this vast repository of international financial data, however carefully targeted use of it may

34 posted on 06/23/2006 3:11:10 AM PDT by aculeus
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This isn't exactly news to the financial industry. Heck we have classes on reporting unusual transactions.
38 posted on 06/23/2006 3:37:56 AM PDT by Raycpa
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NY Times... Al Jazeera....
Same objective, different buildings.
Some serious jail time is in order here.
40 posted on 06/23/2006 5:54:51 AM PDT by TheGrimReaper (Mary Jo Kopechne was unavailable for comment.)
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I take a different view on this. I can't help but wonder how many Freepers would be calling for Clinton's head if he had done this. I'm all for combating terrorists, but in my view the Administration is beginning to look like they are goose stepping across the Constitution in their efforts. The real question is, what are they doing that we don't know about? I had no problem with the wiretapping/CDR reporting issue, but this one is, in my humble opinion, a violation of the 4th Amendment. If we permit this to be established as a precedent, we have to ask ourselves what Hillary would do with this kind of power.


42 posted on 06/23/2006 8:22:33 AM PDT by fix
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