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More scientists express doubts on Darwin
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | June 22, 2006 1:00 a.m. Eastern

Posted on 06/22/2006 1:28:41 PM PDT by Tim Long

600 dissenters sign on challenging claims about support for theory

More than 600 scientists holding doctoral degrees have gone on the record expressing skepticism about Darwin's theory of evolution and calling for critical examination of the evidence cited in its support.

All are signatories to the Scientific Dissent From Darwinism statement, which reads: "We are skeptical of claims for the ability of random mutation and natural selection to account for the complexity of life. Careful examination of the evidence for Darwinian theory should be encouraged."

The statement, which includes endorsement by members of the prestigious U.S. National Academy of Sciences and Russian Academy of Sciences, was first published by the Seattle-based Discovery Institute in 2001 to challenge statements about Darwinian evolution made in promoting PBS's "Evolution" series.

The PBS promotion claimed "virtually every scientist in the world believes the theory to be true."

The list of 610 signatories includes scientists from National Academies of Science in Russia, Czech Republic, Hungary, India (Hindustan), Nigeria, Poland, Russia and the United States. Many of the signers are professors or researchers at major universities and international research institutions such as Cambridge University, British Museum of Natural History, Moscow State University, Masaryk University in Czech Republic, Hong Kong University, University of Turku in Finland, Autonomous University of Guadalajara in Mexico, University of Stellenbosch in South Africa, Institut de Paleontologie Humaine in France, Chitose Institute of Science & Technology in Japan, Ben-Gurion University in Israel, MIT, The Smithsonian and Princeton.

"Dissent from Darwinism has gone global," said Discovery Institute President Bruce Chapman. "Darwinists used to claim that virtually every scientist in the world held that Darwinian evolution was true, but we quickly started finding U.S. scientists that disproved that statement. Now we're finding that there are hundreds, and probably thousands, of scientists all over the world that don't subscribe to Darwin's theory."

The Discovery Institute is the leading promoter of the theory of Intelligent Design, which has been at the center of challenges in federal court over the teaching of evolution in public school classes. Advocates say it draws on recent discoveries in physics, biochemistry and related disciplines that indicate some features of the natural world are best explained as the product of an intelligent cause rather than an undirected process such as natural selection.

"I signed the Scientific Dissent From Darwinism statement because I am absolutely convinced of the lack of true scientific evidence in favor of Darwinian dogma," said Raul Leguizamon, M.D., pathologist and professor of medicine at the Autonomous University of Guadalajara, Mexico.

"Nobody in the biological sciences, medicine included, needs Darwinism at all," he added. "Darwinism is certainly needed, however, in order to pose as a philosopher, since it is primarily a worldview. And an awful one, as Bernard Shaw used to say."


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To: AndrewC

Do you know what a 'guess' is? It is a guess. It is not a statement of fact. But so far, you have only brought forth one unauthorized, unscientific study whose authors won't respond to phone calls and one is even indicted by the FBI, for fraud, I think.


521 posted on 06/26/2006 7:55:37 PM PDT by OmahaFields
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To: OmahaFields
I was mistaken to think you and I could have a decent dialogue and should have paid attention to the first instincts I had about you. Not only do I find the context of your posts irrational, but you show all the signs of a bulletin board stalker, which gives me the creeps.

FYI, since you're new here, you should know that most normal people refrain from multiple postings, and certainly don't post multiple obnoxious posts before getting a response. Psssst: It's a dead give away that you've missed your meds.

I no longer find you worthy of my time and regret that you fooled me in your post #455 when you appeared to have calmed down and seemed more reasonable. I have no doubt you'll at least have one other off the wall response to this post, and given your pattern, you'll probably post to me at least another two to four times with more of your insane creationist bashing drivel. Don't bother because I'll not read it so you really should save yourself the time and embarrassment and leave me alone instead.

522 posted on 06/26/2006 7:58:04 PM PDT by demkicker (democrats and terrorists are intimate bedfellows)
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To: OmahaFields
Nice thing about all your arguments is that all your arguments are ours. Read and weep about your heros ...

It is a peer reviewed article that has not been retracted nor has any scientific evidence been produced to overturn the results. So it stands.

523 posted on 06/26/2006 8:01:08 PM PDT by AndrewC
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To: AndrewC

"The IP group had a higher pregnancy rate as compared to the no-IP rate "

I thought that it was against "Christian moral code" to engage in IV-embryo transfer?


524 posted on 06/26/2006 8:02:46 PM PDT by OmahaFields
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To: OmahaFields
Do you know what a 'guess' is? It is a guess.

Of course, I do. That is why I pointed out that it was a guess, and a wrong one at that.

525 posted on 06/26/2006 8:02:46 PM PDT by AndrewC
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To: balrog666

Wrong. That's the difference between you and me. When I sin, I ask for forgiveness and it is granted. You don't ask and you don't get.... In the end, you'll be the slug.


526 posted on 06/26/2006 8:03:33 PM PDT by demkicker (democrats and terrorists are intimate bedfellows)
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To: AndrewC
nor has any scientific evidence been produced to overturn the results. So it stands.

I think the study you linked to refuted yours.

527 posted on 06/26/2006 8:04:29 PM PDT by OmahaFields
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To: OmahaFields
I thought that it was against "Christian moral code" to engage in IV-embryo transfer?

You lose the argument and now produce red herring. Wave it frantically for all I care. It does not matter. The results speak for themselves.

Jhn 8:11 She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.

528 posted on 06/26/2006 8:05:19 PM PDT by AndrewC
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To: andysandmikesmom
Well, this needs me to say nothing at all...your own awful words speak loud and clear....

But you did say something, so what is your point? Guess you just thought you should be a judgemental buttinski and admonish me? Why don't YOU play like a nice mom and try having a reasonable conversation with balrog666 while he bashes your beliefs? I might hang around to watch that.

529 posted on 06/26/2006 8:10:54 PM PDT by demkicker (democrats and terrorists are intimate bedfellows)
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To: demkicker

I just reviewed my posts. I think you have me mistaken for someone else.


530 posted on 06/26/2006 8:18:02 PM PDT by OmahaFields
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To: demkicker

You seem to feel that you can figure out who is going to go to Hell, and what is more, you will laugh about it...this is what you stated...

First of all, you have no idea where anyone else is going to go, and secondly, the fact that you delight when someone may be going to Hell is just plain awful...

Hang around all you want...its FR, you can hang around on any thread that you want...


531 posted on 06/26/2006 8:19:23 PM PDT by andysandmikesmom
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To: demkicker; OmahaFields

OF, you should know this, but creationists never ever back up their assertions with facts. Right, demkicker?

God didn't have to give references to Moses, did he? Now why should the creationists have to do otherwise?


532 posted on 06/26/2006 8:19:31 PM PDT by stands2reason (ANAGRAM for the day: Socialist twaddle == Tact is disallowed)
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To: AndrewC
You lose the argument and now produce red herring. Wave it frantically for all I care. It does not matter. The results speak for themselves.

I raised a legitimate question. If it is against the Christian moral code to support IV-embryo transfer, how can moral Christians pray for a procedure that is not morally allowed by their God?

533 posted on 06/26/2006 8:20:18 PM PDT by OmahaFields
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To: demkicker

Where are the atheists? How can you tell them from the rest of us?


534 posted on 06/26/2006 8:20:23 PM PDT by stands2reason (ANAGRAM for the day: Socialist twaddle == Tact is disallowed)
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To: stands2reason

He gave a reference. His link refuted his study. His study was unethical, unscientific and one of the 'authors' has been indicted by the FBI for fraud. I would give dem a courtesy ping but his last post to me was full of red-font fradulant claims about how I was harrassing him even though I have only posted to him a handful of times today.


535 posted on 06/26/2006 8:27:44 PM PDT by OmahaFields
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To: Onelifetogive
If God doesn't exist, I'd like to know about it.Science cannot falsify the existence of God, sorry.
536 posted on 06/26/2006 8:30:14 PM PDT by stands2reason (ANAGRAM for the day: Socialist twaddle == Tact is disallowed)
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To: demkicker
When I sin, I ask for forgiveness and it is granted.

Nice work, if you can get it.

Some folks believe its not that easy.

How's your karma?

537 posted on 06/26/2006 8:31:10 PM PDT by Coyoteman (I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
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To: Radix

What judge forbade debate on evolution?


538 posted on 06/26/2006 8:34:38 PM PDT by stands2reason (ANAGRAM for the day: Socialist twaddle == Tact is disallowed)
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It's getting late. I have to apologize to demkicker for my last post. I morphed him and another poster into my one reply to you.


539 posted on 06/26/2006 8:35:19 PM PDT by OmahaFields
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To: Tim Long
Evolution happened (and is still happening). From a conservative, thinking Catholic.
540 posted on 06/26/2006 8:37:51 PM PDT by ExtremeUnction
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