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More scientists express doubts on Darwin
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | June 22, 2006 1:00 a.m. Eastern

Posted on 06/22/2006 1:28:41 PM PDT by Tim Long

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To: AndrewC

Did you pay the postage or send them C.O.D?


401 posted on 06/24/2006 8:37:50 PM PDT by OmahaFields
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To: AndrewC
You haven't seen stars until you've seen them at at least 50,000 ft. Then you can reach out and touch the face of God.

Did you also observe the angels holding the plane aloft?

402 posted on 06/24/2006 8:39:03 PM PDT by OmahaFields
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To: Coyoteman
If you were at 50,000 feet I bet you were too busy to be looking at the stars.

It's not all work. I've also gone over mach 1.0 at 100' AGL. I've watched a tanker wave gossamer wings as we fell away on a practice emergency disconnect. etc.

"I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate." -- Blade Runner

403 posted on 06/24/2006 8:50:46 PM PDT by AndrewC
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To: OmahaFields
Did you pay the postage or send them C.O.D?

2Ti 1:12 For the which cause I also suffer these things: nevertheless I am not ashamed: for I know whom I have believed, and am persuaded that he is able to keep that which I have committed unto him against that day.

404 posted on 06/24/2006 8:52:35 PM PDT by AndrewC
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To: OmahaFields
Did you also observe the angels holding the plane aloft?

Absolutely. ;^) It's pretty quiet up there.

405 posted on 06/24/2006 8:54:20 PM PDT by AndrewC
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To: AndrewC
I've also gone over mach 1.0 at 100' AGL. I've watched a tanker wave gossamer wings as we fell away on a practice emergency disconnect. etc.

Well, good stuff. That is obviously something to behold.

(The >mach 1.0 at 100' AGL -- hope that was over uninhabited land, or water. You could get a lot of broken windows doing that!)

406 posted on 06/24/2006 8:54:41 PM PDT by Coyoteman (I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
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To: Coyoteman
(The >mach 1.0 at 100' AGL -- hope that was over uninhabited land, or water. You could get a lot of broken windows doing that!)

Tropical jungle, and mostly uninhabited. Huts don't have glass windows. We didn't fly directly over them, but they sure knew we were around.

407 posted on 06/24/2006 8:58:59 PM PDT by AndrewC
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To: AndrewC

Did you use GPS?


408 posted on 06/24/2006 9:04:35 PM PDT by OmahaFields
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To: AndrewC
Huts don't have glass windows.

LOL

409 posted on 06/24/2006 9:08:29 PM PDT by Coyoteman (I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
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To: OmahaFields
Did you use GPS?

No. Those were the days when timing was done using sundials and positioning was determined using someone call Janice Doppler ;^).

410 posted on 06/24/2006 9:11:42 PM PDT by AndrewC
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To: AndrewC

call = called.

idiot.


411 posted on 06/24/2006 9:14:11 PM PDT by AndrewC
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To: Tim Long

That is really a funny (but sad) picture.


412 posted on 06/24/2006 9:24:52 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono (Life is like a cow pasture, it's hard to get through without stepping in some mess. NRA.)
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To: Inyo-Mono
That is really a funny (but sad) picture.

Factually incomplete. It does not show the saddles.

413 posted on 06/24/2006 9:28:37 PM PDT by OmahaFields
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To: Inyo-Mono

Yes, I suppose it would be sad if you fail to understand science, I-M.


414 posted on 06/24/2006 9:38:25 PM PDT by Tim Long (I spit in the face of people who don't want to be cool.)
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To: Tim Long
Yes, I suppose it would be sad if you fail to understand science, I-M.

It's sad that people actually fall for that crap. It is even sadder that people fall for the huckster selling that crap.

415 posted on 06/24/2006 9:40:31 PM PDT by OmahaFields
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To: OmahaFields; Tim Long
It's sad that people actually fall for that crap. It is even sadder that people fall for the huckster selling that crap.

How true!

416 posted on 06/24/2006 9:49:14 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono (Life is like a cow pasture, it's hard to get through without stepping in some mess. NRA.)
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To: wireman
Oh yes. Scientific research at its finest.

Here's an idea. Why don't you read Godless and refute what she states about the theory of evolution? I'd love to see you destroy her "scientific research".

417 posted on 06/25/2006 6:43:55 AM PDT by demkicker (democrats and terrorists are intimate bedfellows)
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To: mjolnir
Come on, now. You don't really believe that nonsense, do you?

It was a joke. Lighten up, Francis.

You may find the question "already ridiculous" but to simply claim that the signers are anti-science because they agree with its statement still begs said question by running afoul of the "No true Scotsman fallacy".

I didn't claims that the signers are anti-science. Your statement is, thus, an example of the "Strawman fallacy." (It is the Discovery Institute and those that wish to replace science in the classroom with fairy stories, creation myths or, to risk repetition, ID.)

It's one thing to say that ID isn't really science, and it is another to say that no true scientists endorse it. It's that latter claim that I think can't be made without committing the NTS fallacy.

I never said anything about the scientists who signed it, but about the DI, who are defrauding the public, and its tactic of lying about the supposed existance of a genuine controversy in the biological community about the validity of evolution.

Of the signatories, some are Moonies who were asked by "Father" Sun Yong Moon to pursue education and careers in biology to give the sort of legitimacy to his primative Genesisist beliefs that the DI is pushing. Some, if not most, are scientists who were duped into signing it, given the innocuousness of the statement, coupled with the signatory's ignorance of the DI and its tactics and goals. Finally, there are a bunch of scientists in non-biological fields who are born again Christians who, I believe, signed as an act of religious faith or obligation.

As for Stephen Jay Gould, I'm a little surprised you would describe him as "great". According to John Maynard Smith,...

Maynard Smith's entitled to his opinion of Gould, I'm entitled to my opinion of Maynard Smith. And anyone who wouldn't describe Gould as "great," even if they have academic differences with him, simply isn't paying attention.

Gould is well known for having written the Mismeasure of Man, a screed attacking the Bell Curve and its authors as pseudo-scientists rather than dealing with its facts and arguments...

LMAO! Referring to any of Gould's writing as a "screed" is utterly ridiculous. Gould may write many things, but "screeds" are not among them.

418 posted on 06/25/2006 6:51:00 AM PDT by WildHorseCrash
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To: demkicker
Ann's entitled to her opinion just as you are and I am.

We're also entitled to disagree. I don't feel threatened by that. I'm sorry if you do.

What Ann Coulter does is by no means "Scientific Research." I'm sure that she would be the first to admit that.

419 posted on 06/25/2006 6:56:14 AM PDT by wireman
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To: wireman
What Ann Coulter does is by no means "Scientific Research.

Funny, but I didn't realize you were the rule maker of what qualifies as scientific research and what doesn't. What Coulter lays out perfectly are published FACTS about the theory of evolution and in the process, destroys Darwin. But don't take my word for it. Read Godless to see for yourself, then argue your points.

420 posted on 06/25/2006 7:22:03 AM PDT by demkicker (democrats and terrorists are intimate bedfellows)
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