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Senate Rejects Call to Withdraw Troops
Yahoooo via AP ^ | 6/22/06

Posted on 06/22/2006 8:51:09 AM PDT by areafiftyone

WASHINGTON - The Senate has rejected a proposal to make the Bush administration withdraw all combat troops from Iraq in the next year. It was the first of two votes today on Democratic proposals to pull troops out of Iraq.

Democrats demanded that the U.S. begin withdrawing troops from Iraq this year, while Republicans echoed President Bush's call to stay the course ahead of Senate votes on Thursday that illustrate the choice facing voters in midterm elections this fall.

"Withdrawal is not an option. Surrender is not a solution," declared Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, who characterized Democrats as defeatists wanting to "cut and run" from Iraq before the mission is complete.

Senate Democratic leader Harry Reid of Nevada, in turn, portrayed Republican leaders as blindly following President Bush's "failed" policy, and said: "It is long past time to change course in Iraq and start to end the president's open-ended commitment."

The GOP-controlled Senate is voting today on two Democratic proposals to start redeploying U.S. troops from Iraq this year. The vote comes a week after both houses of Congress soundly rejected withdrawal timetables.

Both proposals — offered as amendments to an annual military bill — were expected to be defeated, mostly along partisan lines.

Republicans argued the United States must stay put to help the fledgling Iraqi government while Democrats demanded the Bush administration make clear that American forces won't be in Iraq forever.

"We must give them that support and not send a signal that we're going to pull possibly the rug out from under them," Sen. John Warner (news, bio, voting record), R-Va., said.

"It is time to tell the Iraqis that we have done what we can do militarily," Sen. Russ Feingold (news, bio, voting record), D-Wis., answered.

Republicans and Democrats on Capitol Hill have staged bitter partisan debates for two weeks, with both sides maneuvering for the political upper-hand in a midterm election year.

On Wednesday, Senate Republicans welcomed the Democratic-engineered debate because it highlighted divisions in the Democratic Party little more than four months before Election Day and as the GOP is trying to overcome polls showing the public favors a power shift in Congress to Democrats.

Democrats, for their part, tried to deflect attention from differences in their party on Iraq, even though the debate was over two separate Democratic proposals on the fate of U.S. troops.

One of those proposals, sponsored by Feingold and Sen. John Kerry of Massachusetts, would require the administration to withdraw all combat troops from Iraq by July 1, 2007, with redeployments beginning this year.

The other proposal — which most Democrats and their leadership support — calls for the administration to begin "a phased redeployment of U.S. forces" by year's end. The nonbinding resolution would not set a deadline of when all forces must be withdrawn.

The Bush administration says U.S. troops will stay in Iraq until Iraqi security forces can defend the country against a lethal insurgency that rose up after the U.S.-led invasion in 2003 that toppled dictator Saddam Hussein.

Senate Republicans opposed any timeline. They said a premature pullout and a public pronouncement of any such plan would risk all-out civil war, tip off terrorists, threaten U.S. security and cripple the Iraqi government just as democracy is taking hold.

In turn, almost all Democrats chastised Republicans for walking in lockstep with Bush and they accused him of failing to articulate a plan for the way ahead in Iraq. Democrats said it is time for troops to start coming home and for Congress to send a clear signal that the U.S. presence is not indefinite.

Sensitive to talk of a divided party, Democratic aides circulated a memo from a Democratic pollster suggesting that Republicans will pay a price in November for standing with the president's war policies. But Republicans dismissed that notion.

Democrats also played down concerns, voiced privately by some party strategists, that the Kerry-Feingold call for a "hard-and-fast" deadline is hindering the party's efforts to project a unified position on Iraq for the fall.

Still, those dismissals did not explain why Democratic leaders spent more than a week trying to write a "consensus" proposal that they hoped would persuade Kerry and Feingold to drop their own, which would set a "date certain" for ending the U.S. combat mission.

In the end, the two potential 2008 Democratic presidential candidates were not swayed and votes on the separate proposals were scheduled.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 109th; bugout; congress; cutandrun; iraq; oif; resolve; staythecourse; troopwithdrawal; ussenate
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To: areafiftyone
The Democrats New Direction Plan:

1.) Cut.

2.) Run.


81 posted on 06/22/2006 9:44:56 AM PDT by OB1kNOb (This is no time for bleeding hearts, pacifists, and appeasers to prevail in free world opinion.)
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To: OB1kNOb
They realize that plan has no traction so from now on it will be named a policy of run and cut, to try connect with the voters. Remember, it's nothing like the old plan as it now has a different name
82 posted on 06/22/2006 9:47:49 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (The man who said "there's no such thing as a stupid question" has never talked to Helen Thomas.)
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To: areafiftyone
Looks like only 13 Dems voted for troop Withdrawal!

It appears they executed their new plan flawlessly. When it came time to vote, most of them cut and run!

83 posted on 06/22/2006 9:47:53 AM PDT by OB1kNOb (This is no time for bleeding hearts, pacifists, and appeasers to prevail in free world opinion.)
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To: Mo1

Yeppers...that is why with Hillary, especially, whoever campaigns against her has to put her votes right next to her rhetoric on the same subject...they very seldom match, I bet...


84 posted on 06/22/2006 9:48:39 AM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: george76
Hey wait a thecond! Both Bugs and Daffy served with distinction in WW2! Don't depict them as lefties!



85 posted on 06/22/2006 9:49:08 AM PDT by Graymatter
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To: areafiftyone
A more recent AP story is still trying to cling to the notion (as Rush pointed out) that this is somehow a partisan issue:

By LIZ SIDOTI, Associated Press Writer
36 minutes ago

WASHINGTON - The GOP-controlled Senate on Thursday rejected Democratic calls to start withdrawing U.S. troops from Iraq by years' end, as the two parties sought to define their election-year positions on a war that has grown increasingly unpopular.

............... Democratic calls? Only thirteen of them voted for it Liz, sweetie.

86 posted on 06/22/2006 9:49:32 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (California bashers will be called out)
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To: areafiftyone
Democrats said it is time for troops to start coming home

How do they "come home" if they are redeployed. I'm so confused about lib language.

87 posted on 06/22/2006 9:50:41 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: davidosborne; Mo1

Well...Hillary did vote for Levin's.


88 posted on 06/22/2006 9:50:55 AM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: LM_Guy

yes
polls are weighted
you add or subtract different groups of people or demographics till you get the result you want
for example if you wanted to get bush dwon to a 105 approval rating you could go poll people in washington DC where they voted for kerry by a 10 to 1 margin...


89 posted on 06/22/2006 9:53:39 AM PDT by edzo4
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To: davidosborne
Chafee (R-RI)

Hey, RNC! Hey, President Bush! Do you STILL want to support this RINO now? He just backstabbed you!

I see Jumpin' Jim Jeffords is on that list too.

}:-)4

90 posted on 06/22/2006 9:53:51 AM PDT by Moose4 (Dirka dirka Mohammed jihad.)
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To: COBOL2Java

Kerry should just go for January, 2039

Mercifully, JFK will be a forgotten memory long before then.


91 posted on 06/22/2006 9:56:18 AM PDT by hardworking
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To: areafiftyone
The really strange thing about pulling out is that that is exactly what Bush would like to do and plans to do - announcing the timetable would be one of the most stupid thing to happen in the history of warfare.

This is not to you, it's to those political punks that want to pull out:


92 posted on 06/22/2006 9:56:56 AM PDT by Sonora
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To: areafiftyone

Cut and Run Kerry. Grab defeat from the jaws of victory Liberals. Sheesh.


93 posted on 06/22/2006 9:57:49 AM PDT by Libertina (Our troops are INNOCENT until proven otherwise. I'll take their word over the enemy's any day!)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Isnt this amendment attach to an appropriations bill?


94 posted on 06/22/2006 10:01:16 AM PDT by cardinal4 (Allah is the opium pipedream of a desert pedophile...Freeper Ax)
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To: Raycpa

Murtha said that the troops could defend Iraq from Okinawa !


95 posted on 06/22/2006 10:01:40 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: davidosborne

Thanks for posting that list, and your other one too!


96 posted on 06/22/2006 10:06:36 AM PDT by alwaysconservative (Having Pelosi two heartbeats away from the Presidency is a MAJOR reason NOT to vote Democrat in 2006)
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To: edzo4

Do you think the Wall Street Jornal is a liberal media organization bent on doing in Bush like CNN or MSNBC might wish ?

Their polls agree very much with other polls with just a point or two in difference...


97 posted on 06/22/2006 10:07:00 AM PDT by LM_Guy
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To: LM_Guy

"Dammit! Well Teddy boy, let's just try again next week."
-John F-ing Kerry


98 posted on 06/22/2006 10:12:20 AM PDT by DaBadGuy ("Do you know who invented dynamite? No? You know why? Because he blew his frigging FACE off!!!!!")
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To: hsalaw
"...OTHER than CUT AND RUN. Just what that is, I don't know."

Cower in the corner and pee in my pants?

Hope the Republicans forgive my treason and save my sorry a** from the Islamo-Fascists?

99 posted on 06/22/2006 10:15:04 AM PDT by Thom Pain (Supporting the Constitution is NOT right wing. It is centrist.)
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To: george76

Then our troops ought to be able to cover New Orleans from Iraq.


100 posted on 06/22/2006 10:17:22 AM PDT by Raycpa
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