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This is a dangerous conclusion and proof of the pro-promiscuity bias of the MSM. It whould be more responsible to state the study results in the reverse:

This study proves that HPV is so contageous that even when condoms are used, women who have sex with a male who carries HPV will get infected anyway in over 30 percent of the cases studied.

Having sex with random people is not like driving a car on a two-lane road. Condoms are not sexual seat belts for the simple matter that people can practice "defensive driving" and lagely avoid accidents before the fact. If people practiced "defensive copulation", they would not copulate with people who were not monogamous. This study proves the only way for a woman to assure herself that she will not get HPV is only to copulate with a male who has never been infected.

1 posted on 06/22/2006 5:01:00 AM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: theBuckwheat
People get what they deserve.....only abstinence can keep diseases away.
2 posted on 06/22/2006 5:09:41 AM PDT by Fawn (BUILD A LONG TALL WALL)
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So, I take it from your comment that women get HPV from men, and not the other way around?

Those nasty dirty boys wouldn't be able to spread those diseases around if they didn't have willing female partners who incubate and keep these diseases warm and ready to spread to their next partner.


3 posted on 06/22/2006 5:12:31 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: theBuckwheat
It would be more responsible to state the study results in the reverse

I thought the same thing. Funny this comes on the heels of the HPV vaccine news.

It's all "go out and have some fun." No matter how young you are. Condoms will solve it all. Even if there were no sexually transmitted diseases, most women aren't psychologically built to be having sex with every male that comes along. It's not good for the health of the individual. It's not good for the health of the U.S.

4 posted on 06/22/2006 5:14:40 AM PDT by beaversmom
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To: theBuckwheat

70% is NOT "highly effective" if the availability of condoms increases sexual activity. Condom availability surely raises the incidence of HPV.


5 posted on 06/22/2006 5:14:42 AM PDT by arthurus (It was better to fight them OVER THERE than here.)
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Let's see now. Condoms are 70 percent effective. Using the same logic, random chance is 83 percent effective in preventing death from Russian Roulette using a six shooter.


6 posted on 06/22/2006 5:16:09 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage
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To: theBuckwheat
To the Left, the sexual revolution is alive and kicking. Even though the sixties duds have gone out of fashion.

(Denny Crane: "Every one should carry a gun strapped to their waist. We need more - not less guns.")

7 posted on 06/22/2006 5:16:11 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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A new study in the New England Journal of Medicine reveals that consistent condom use can prevent the spread of HPV in up to 70 percent of cases

Like playing Russian roulette with 2 bullets in the cylinder.

10 posted on 06/22/2006 5:27:30 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (Make them go home!!)
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Hit me too, that a 30% failure rate is something to crow about? Does that 30% failure rate apply to men also? ...And what if... I do believe years ago, regarding condoms and the size of viri, that it was determined condoms were not exactly perfect in stopping the spread of HIV. The center for disease control and P R E V E N T I O N located in Atlanta GA has some very enlightening PC comments vis-a-vis their supposed mandate. I'm not sure if the courts had a hand in the direction they took, but the handling of HIV after the method of transmission was known, in my opinion, was worthy of having the organization disbanded. The P in prevention appeared to mean P in PC.

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11 posted on 06/22/2006 5:30:45 AM PDT by wita (truthspeaks@freerepublic.com)
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Since when has it become settled science that the HPV causes cancer? It was considered to be an indicator, not a causative factor before, was it not?


15 posted on 06/22/2006 6:30:53 AM PDT by jeremiah (How much did we get for that rope?)
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new study in the New England Journal of Medicine reveals that consistent condom use can prevent the spread of HPV in up to 70 percent of cases

words fail me....what does "up to" mean, exactly?
16 posted on 06/22/2006 6:32:02 AM PDT by stylin19a
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A new study in the New England Journal of Medicine reveals that consistent condom use can prevent the spread of HPV in up to 70 percent of cases, giving Innis and other health educators better proof that condoms can prevent HPV, helping to dispel any myths that they are not effective....

Wow, that's great. So a 30% failure rate is considered "protection" now?

Here's a thought: if you don't want to get HPV (or HIV, or syphillis, clamydia, crabs, genital warts, etc.) STOP HAVING SEX OUTSIDE OF MARRIAGE!
21 posted on 06/22/2006 7:26:37 AM PDT by Antoninus (I don't vote for liberals -- regardless of party.)
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To: theBuckwheat

It's a nice breather from "ya can still get sick with condoms".


29 posted on 06/22/2006 7:47:27 AM PDT by Wolfie
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I think it means that if you are in a monogamous relationship with someone who has been exposed to HPV, then this is one way to help limit your exposure.


36 posted on 06/22/2006 10:09:15 AM PDT by luckystarmom
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Condom use will reduce the probability of infection, but it sure won't eliminate it. Since 99% of cervical cancers are the result of HPV, it's a VERY good reason for women to wait until marriage, and to get their future spouse tested before the wedding.


57 posted on 06/23/2006 12:52:45 PM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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Most MSM and the medical profession do not mention that HPV, Herpes, Chlamydia, Gonorrhea, Syphllis, and possibly more are found in the eye. Would cause conjunctivitis on the surface of the white of the eye.

HPV and Herpes have also been found in the nose. Did a search using terms like “manual-genital”, autoinoculation, “mucous membrane”, nasal, “hand to eye”, and “ocular OR eye” along with the name of the STD. Some are from the CDC. Few are in terms that most people esp. teens would understand.

The HPV numbers included in sinonasal inverted papillomas are, “HPV 6/11-positive was present in 41% & HPV 16/18-positive was present in 31%.” Found this on PubMed - Increased expression of matrix metalloproteinase-2 and 9 and human papilloma virus infection are associated with malignant transformation of sinonasal inverted papilloma. Hideaki Katori, et al. J Surg Oncol. 2006 Jan 1;93:80-5 [Pubmed]

STDs can be picked up by feeling up the other or self or while putting on or taking off a condom and then touching an openning in the body i. e. eye, inside of nose, inside of mouth, cut, etc. Ever hear sex ed classes telling people to wash their hands? Detection of human papillomavirus DNA on the fingers of patients with genital warts Sonnex C, et al. Sex Transm Infect.1999 Oct;75(5):317-9.

The CDC and other sources on the internet state that long term use of oral contraceptives, that is the birth control pill, increases their risk of cervical cancer by 400 to 800 percent if you also have HPV.

1 in 300 with Chlamydia also have this in their eye.

According to data published in the journal Archives of Ophthalmology, herpes simplex keratitis affects up to 500,000 people in the United States. Yearly, ocular herpes simplex virus is estimated to affect approximately 50,000 people in the United States, arising as acute primary disease in 20,000 people and as recurrent disease in an additional 28,000.

True education is needed on the failure rate of condoms and the wonders of contraceptives.


70 posted on 06/20/2007 12:20:04 PM PDT by pattyam
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