Posted on 06/22/2006 2:42:57 AM PDT by beaversmom
if you visit Slate.com..Faith Based forum....you will find regular debates on the subject of homosexuality/homosexuals and the Bible verses related to such......you will find that all the noted verses above have been conveniently explained away by those espousing that homosexuality is really as 'natural' as heterosexuality.....
for instance: in the new testament, romans, they argue the the translation should have been a word denoting 'male prostitutes' and that paul is condemning heterosexual men going to the temple to use male prostitutes and women going to the temple to use female prostitutes....outside their 'natural' proclivity if they are homosexuals, etc (sarcasm).....as much a stretch this is, this argument is the basis of the various homosexual church teachings....they also argue that the Bible does not condemn homosexuality, per se, only illicit homosexual sexual relations, same as it condemns illicit heterosexual sexual relations.....they claim that when Jesus said "some are born 'eunuchs' means that He knew that some are born homosexuals, some heterosexual...
in leviticus, they claim that the passage pertains to the ritual purity demanded of the israelites by God....
as much as this defies logic, there are those who can make a very detailed debate of this crap (sic)......
as for me and my house, we will worship the Lord....the Holy Spirit spoke to Paul...Christ said that he would send the Holy Spirit, thus Paul's writings are as if Christ Himself was speaking to him, thus, the liberal idiot who wrote the subject of your post basically follows normal liberal behavior: ignore what is inconvenient to absurd points of view..full speed ahead....
the Christians on that Slate forum could use some help as it's about 10-1 anti-christian.....i know, however, i tend to hold my own a little better than most there.......
I think the Episcopal church and other churches would be more diverse, tolerant and showing acceptance if they admitted a bunch of Jews, Muslims, Hindus and Atheists.
God bless liberals and teenagers. But I repeat myself...
Yep. Christian belief holds that we are all sinners. But Christ also calls on us to go and "sin no more".
Seems liberals just can't get their heads around the concept of renouncing sin.
She probably tore 1 Timothy 3 out of her Bible - if she actually owns one.
The priest stands in the place of Christ, who was a man. So having a woman priest, er,... well,... oh nevermind.
Will the Ten Commandments be replaced with the Ten Suggestions? Will they replace the Sacrament with Viagra? Coming soon to a Liberal Social Club near you. What dolts the media is for pandering to these Asshats.
What you call Christianity is worldly paganism. Jesus came to separate the wicked from the righteous, not "tolerate" or "accept" them.
There's too much Pop-Christianity going around. Go back and read The Book to find out what it's really about. It's not diversity.
Another asshat who thinks if Christ didn't specifically mention a sin as being a sin, it can't possibly be a sin.
The Gospel according to Clinton. Parse it, twist it, shape it and make the damn thing fit MY lifestyle Christianity.
Christ also didn't mention pedophilia. NAMBLA should start a PR drive on how they are a Christian Society.
These people do not fear God at all. It is not that they are liberal, it is that they do not fear God. They mock God. The Episcopal Church mocks God and all God mocking liberals should feel at home there.
Being in this church reminded me of another time I had been there decades earlier. A student who assisted in the church and was also a friend of my family invited me and my siblings to join him while he played music on the church bells on Easter Sunday. We climbed up into the church tower and he assigned us all to certain levers of the carillon. He played all the other ones, some with his feet, and called out to us when our bells were required in the music.
That young man was brilliant and also devoted to the church. Years later I realized that he was gay and so was the family friend whose funeral I later attended.
So it has always been true that some of the people most involved with the church were gay. That never seemed to be a problem because their gayness did not seem to be related to their involvement in the church, except perhaps in how it might be connected to a greater appreciation of liturgical music and art, etc.
The problem I think many people have with gays in the church is not so much their presence; it turns out that they were always there. The thing people object to is the possibility that the church will be turned over to promote gay culture rather than Christianity.
Well, great! They'll gain one member. That will make up for the thousands that are leaving in disgust.
My bible doesn't have an expiration date. Hers must have a "sell by 2006" stamped on it somewhere.
I hate this one. The whole bible is Christ's teachings.
And, yes, I know its not exactly the same for gays, as there is some scripture in the Old Testament (though not in Christs teachings) that forbids homosexuality.
Guess she never read Romans.
Or this...
If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead. (Luke 16:31)
exactly...thank you, Sir Francis....
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