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To: sinkspur
What I've been hearing, scuttlebutt, talk show noise...is that the administration did NOT want to go here.

The admin simply wanted to concede the point over WMD's as there had been faulty intelligence and it was too much to deal with.

A scenario I believe, Sink good buddy, because the President has done one lousy butt job of communicating all that was horrible about Saddam to the American public. All those tenuous connections to Al-Queda, all that sneakery that JVeritas' translations are revealing.

The President knew about this. Bush did the right thing as I am sure Clinton knew about it too. But the left getting that precious talking point for what? Four years now? That talking point about no WMD's...Sink, that was a killer. It was a killer and Bush, Rove, Cheney, whoever made the decision, it was really a bad idea.

A bunch of biological weapons that were degraded? So why did Saddam keep them? Why didn't he turn the degraded crap over to the UN weapons guys? Saddam, goodness, he could have been hailed as a hero, an upstanding guy who was turning over his old chemical stockpiles all good and proper.

Saddam didn't turn those chemicals over because he wanted to keep them. Wherever he had them hid it was a good spot. The UN guys didn't find them; our coalition forces did. Even just a little Sarin gas is a bad thing. I'm betting Saddam hung onto those chemicals as an ace in the hole. And talk all night, I'm not convinced those chemicals were harmless.

Better, why didn't the President present the case, just like I did above? Couldn't he at least have sent out some talking guys to make the case?

This administration allowed "No weapons of WMD's" to become an ingrained talking point and this will be difficult to overcome, if ever.

Bad decision. I might be just an American slob and not part of the politically elite, but I know a plain bad decision when I look it in the eye.

254 posted on 06/21/2006 6:35:21 PM PDT by Fishtalk (http://patfish.blogspot.com/)
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To: Fishtalk

I support this administration so much that I'm called a bushbot, a label I wear proudly. (Of course, on other threads I get called a troll but that's a different story. LOL)

Anyway, I've said for a year or two now that the president's PR campaign is as bad a campaign as I've ever seen. He has permitted it to become an article of faith that Al Qaeda had no relationship to Iraq and that the war has drawn jihadists and AQ to the region.

This is not only stupid public relations wise, it's not true and it's demonstrably not true.

It's the same with the WMD issue, as you pointed out.

I know the president isn't a stupid man. And for all those who say he's playing poker and waiting until the right moment, the right moment to talk about the relationship that went back to the early 90's between Saddam and AQ/OBL was in the fall of 2004 before the election.

I think you're right and that the administration has decided not to rehash an old issue and do the important work that needs to be done and not get distracted with playing a game of defense.

It's understandable and to an extent admirable, but letting people think the president "lied his way into war" has also had the unfortunate effect of reducing support for the war and the military and that has been most unfortunate.


265 posted on 06/21/2006 6:41:33 PM PDT by Peach (Iraq/AlQaeda relationship http://markeichenlaub.blogspot.com/2006/06/strategic-relationship-between.)
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To: Fishtalk; bnelson44

He did not turn them over because the DELIVERY SYSTEMS are unique.

You can't disperse chemical/bio with just any old artillery round. If you're going to have a quick reaction, just-in-time chemical capability, you need to have the delivery systems available for placing the newly manufactured chemical into.

(They're not saying yet on TV that the chemical in these shells is degraded.)


272 posted on 06/21/2006 6:43:56 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It. Supporting our Troops Means Praying for them to Win!)
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