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Breaking on Fox Rick Santorum Reading Unclassified Version over 500 Chemical WMDs Found

Posted on 06/21/2006 2:39:13 PM PDT by COUNTrecount

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To: Marine_Uncle

Do you think we could get CNN to open one of these cannisters live on TV to prove they are no longer effective?

301 posted on 06/21/2006 6:57:07 PM PDT by tubebender (Some minds are like concrete, thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.)
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To: Republicanus_Tyrannus; Peach; MJY1288
That is the most reasonable explanation I have heard. Peach, please read this gentleman's post I am responding to.

One reason I think you are right is that we had lots of reports in the news in the 6 months after the invasion about WMD's being found, and then they were ALWAYS discounted or retracted. I think it unlikely that every single report was wrong. We also heard from private sources that things were being found...Mike was it you that heard that from a relative?

And David Kay also did a switcheroo on what he said was found. I am almost sure that happened.

The only thing that makes sense is that the WMD finding was being kept quiet for security reasons.

A secondary reason may have been that we had evidence of the culpability of certain elements of the Russian or Chinese government (or, of course, the French).

I don't think President Bush's PR failures account for this. Most of the press seems to be puzzled about this and aren't sure why this news would have been held back.. which leads me back to Republicanus's explanation.

302 posted on 06/21/2006 6:57:23 PM PDT by Miss Marple (Lord, please look after Mozart Lover's and Jemian's sons and keep them strong.)
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To: Miss Marple

I just read and re-read that post, MM, and it could be correct.

It would make sense to keep the WMD finding quiet for security reasons.

What I don't understand is the reluctance to talk about the Iraq/AQ connection. It was the second big reason for the war in Iraq.

303 posted on 06/21/2006 7:00:30 PM PDT by Peach (Iraq/AlQaeda relationship
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To: Peach
Gas attacks using artillery in WWI:
304 posted on 06/21/2006 7:01:16 PM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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To: Fishtalk
Bush has been sly like a fox.

Now the media will be forced to follow this story to understand why the discovery of these WMDs were not reported. The fact that they were there will never be questioned anymore. Their existence will have to be covered and the hiding of their existence will be the bait. Smart move.

305 posted on 06/21/2006 7:01:28 PM PDT by TennTuxedo
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To: bnelson44

My grandfather was attacked with mustard gas in WWI and won a Purple Heart as a result. His breathing by the end of his life was painful to listen to.

306 posted on 06/21/2006 7:02:32 PM PDT by Peach (Iraq/AlQaeda relationship
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To: Miss Marple
There is no reason for those countries to be embarrassed by chemical shells made in Iraq unless components of those shells were purchased from said countries in which case they should be publicly embarrassed.Movement of WMD prior to Shaock and Awe day is another matter but the Bush Administration can declassify the parts that don't cause embarrassment if that is their choice.

I think there is another reason and I have no idea what it is. It may be beyond the bounds of common sense.

307 posted on 06/21/2006 7:02:43 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: Peach

If I recall correctly, one of the Presidents stated objectives was to return dignity to the Office when he was first elected. And it so needed to be returned. So needed. Anyhow, I think this colors a great deal of the PR coming outta the White House and in some ways it isn't so bad. Still, I think your right about what his PR campaign has been up till now. Have a great day.

308 posted on 06/21/2006 7:04:31 PM PDT by welfareisslavery (yeah, I'm a Bushbot.....)
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To: mystery-ak

I sat here and listened to H&C.

There is only a suggestion at this point that the chemical in these weapons is degraded.

ALSO....the delivery systems WERE REQUIRED to have been destroyed. These were not. They were available for refilling if necessary.

309 posted on 06/21/2006 7:04:42 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It. Supporting our Troops Means Praying for them to Win!)
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To: sinkspur

I'm not surprised to learn that Ford received briefings from Bush 41.

I wouldn't make the leap from that, however, that all past presidents stay in the loop. Somehow, the thought of GWB authorizing Jimmy Carter receive briefings on anything is far-fetched, don't you think?

310 posted on 06/21/2006 7:05:25 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: tubebender
We could take all five hundred shells and distribute them around the liberal areas of the country and let liberals tinker with them to see if they are safe or not. We can let liberals film it for TV. Have plenty of liberal professors around to make sure everything goes well....

Whoa I need to wake up...
311 posted on 06/21/2006 7:05:33 PM PDT by grapeape ("If your attack is going too well, you're probably walking into an ambush.")
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To: P-40

I would love to have W in front of a whole season of Congress.
He would take a shell out of a bag and put it on the podium and say, "Gentlemen and Ladies, this is a friggin WMD. Its full of Sarin and would kill everyone in this building. I want everyone who said that I lied to get down on their knees and thank God I am a forgiving man!"
"Ted you start first!"

312 posted on 06/21/2006 7:06:52 PM PDT by Holicheese (Stanley Cup's new home IS North Carolina!)
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To: welfareisslavery

You're right about restoring dignity to the WH. I saw the president when he was campaiging as Governor Bush in 2000 several times and whenever he said that line, the audience absolutely erupted.

For those who don't have much information on the Iraq/Al Qaeda relationship which goes back to the early 90's and which the mainstream media wrote about frequently in the 90's, there is more information here:

313 posted on 06/21/2006 7:07:40 PM PDT by Peach (Iraq/AlQaeda relationship
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To: Holicheese


314 posted on 06/21/2006 7:08:00 PM PDT by grapeape ("If your attack is going too well, you're probably walking into an ambush.")
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To: Miss Marple

Read post #70 and 264...David Kay is an enemy of the president!!!

315 posted on 06/21/2006 7:09:15 PM PDT by nannaj34
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To: All

Can't read the whole thread, but the marxists already dismiss it. It doesn't count! Even though the two guests on Hannity And Colms both said apologies are due.

And they take this position not knowing what the still "classified" info is. Good Lord.

I will check back later when I can. I wish I was dumbfounded instead of numbly unsurprised.

316 posted on 06/21/2006 7:09:27 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: Miss Marple


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To: nannaj34

All of it calculated to hurt the Bush Administration and make the Democrats look like angels. Which was probably the intention of the producers in the first place.

I understand they also had the failed Richard Clarke on the program, the guy who testified that Sandy Berger was a wonderful National Security Advisor - right before Berger got caught stealing Top Secret documents from the National Archives.

I saw the promotional material for this show, in which it said Cheney had to "take on the CIA". If Cheney did that, it's to his credit.

318 posted on 06/21/2006 7:09:41 PM PDT by popdonnelly
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To: bnelson44

"Chemicals degrade slowly over time. They may be very potent still."

Does any FReeper know the half-life of Sarin under these circumstances of storage. If this is unclassified knowlege it should be fairly simple to tell if these shells are still lethal or not. (I'm assuming a direct first order decomposition to non-lethal products.)

319 posted on 06/21/2006 7:10:49 PM PDT by Panzerlied ("We shall never surrender!")
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To: xzins

This shuld be interesting, there are more docs that are supposed to be released.

320 posted on 06/21/2006 7:11:18 PM PDT by mystery-ak (Army Wife and Army Mother.....toughest job in the military)
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