Posted on 06/21/2006 2:38:38 PM PDT by Scarchin
I just got a phonecall saying something big was about to break RE: WMD but I can't get to a TV. Anyone?
You're the best!
Funny that the vials and shells had Cyrillic markings on them.
FYI, We only gave Saddam a little intelligence on Iranian capabilities and movements, not nerve gas. We were highly PO'd with the Iranians about that time, something to do with a bunch of our Embassy workers being held hostage for over year.... You know, it made Ted Koppell's bones, and probably got that other Cowboy elected to the White House.
My grandfather was mustard gassed in WWI. It was only after a doctor informed him of how ill he really was, that he died in 1955, 2 months after the birth of his first grandson - me.
The fact that a US Senator made the statement should be big news.
Highly volatile chemicals like sarin, organophosphoric compounds, do not have long shelf lives unless they are extremely pure. Sarin is a clear liquid with a low vapor pressure so it will evaporate very easily. You don't store these types of things in glass if you can avoid it. Glass breaks.
Here's the MSDS sheet for Sarin if you would like to read it. It's terribly nasty stuff and we're darn luck not to have those 500 shells in the wrong hands.
http://www.gulfweb.org/bigdoc/report/appgb.html
Exactly.
"Hey, look at that warehouse full of nukes!"
"Don't count. They're 6 years old."
Thanks BagCam for the confirmation on my view.
I went thru this same "how do YOU know" when USA NoDay published that pic the first time.
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I'm watching Brit's roundtable and the pundits all seem flustered about this.
They aren't sure what angle to take on this revelation.
The administration fought releasing this information, the weapons are pre-91 but still WMD's undisclosed by Saddam Hussein.
It would be simpler for them if the administration had eagerly sought to release this information. Then their talking points would be readily settled upon. This is throwing everyone on the panel into a confused tizzy.
I'm amused by it.
Haven't there been revelations of discovered WMD before, that were downplayed? Oh, it didn't come from a high ranking Senator such as santorum which is why they are paying attentiont this time...I guess... it just feels like old news to me but to these folks that had doubts I suppose it explains the way they are reacting. I just take it as further confirmation of what I already knew.
Did Brit smack him or just give him that 'how freakin' stupid can you be' look that he aims at Juan on occasion?
I'm only glad to help you crush the spirit of a lib.
Hoekstra is chairman of the House intelligence committtee. For him to associate himself with this information makes it more significant to me than Santorum's involvement.
Sorry, but this is way too little, way too late. Dubya lost the narrative on WMD, let the other side define it (that the admin was wrong).
Coming back three years later saying they were right all along comes across as a joke at this point. It may as well never have happened.
I call em like I see them.
""Hey, look at that warehouse full of nukes!"
"Don't count. They're 6 years old."
That would actually be somewhat truthful, as H-bombs, at least, actually do have a short shelf-life (radioactive decary of certain parts).
Not sure about a U-235 bomb, though.
Arrived late to this thread and it's probably already been said but the libs won't change course a bit. "Bush still lied and people died"
They get on something and like a dog with a bone, they won't let it go.
I'm inclined to believe this is his opening ante. The stakes are to high to lay out his whole hand at this time.
Also "NO"..I don't think anyone is going to " Jump" on this yet--LEAST of all the Liberal Media!!
But also those who KNEW that it was found--cause they have to reseacrh all the facts to PREVENT any " Gloating" from being ripped apart!
Hillary Just left NYC in a HUFF!--"NO COMMENT!!" when questioned.
go to Hillwatch--I have to go back & get the site!
Document Details WMD Recovered In Iraq, Santorum Says
By Melanie Hunter
CNSNews.com Senior Editor
June 21, 2006
(CNSNews.com) - Sen. Rick Santorum (R-Pa.) and Rep. Peter Hoekstra (R-Mich.) announced Wednesday the finding of over 500 munitions or weapons of mass destruction, specifically "sarin- and mustard-filled projectiles," in Iraq.
Reading from unclassified portions of a document developed by the U.S. intelligence community, Santorum said, "Since 2003, coalition forces have recovered approximately 500 weapons munitions which contain degraded mustard or sarin nerve agent. Despite many efforts to locate and destroy Iraq's pre-Gulf War chemical munitions, filled and unfilled pre-Gulf War chemical munitions are assessed to still exist."
According to Santorum, "That means in addition to the 500, there are filled and unfilled munitions still believed to exist within the country."
Reading from the document, Santorum added, "Pre-Gulf War Iraqi chemical weapons could be sold on the Black Market. Use of these weapons by terrorist or insurgent groups would have implications for coalition forces in Iraq. The possibility of use outside of Iraq cannot be ruled out. The most likely munitions remaining are sarin- and mustard-filled projectiles. And I underscore filled."
Santorum said the "purity of the agents inside the munitions depends on many factors, including the manufacturing process, potential additives and environmental storage conditions."
While acknowledging that the agents "degrade over time," the document said that the chemicals "remain hazardous and potentially lethal."
The media has reported that "insurgents and Iraqi groups" want to "acquire and use chemical weapons," Santorum noted.
The Pennsylvania senator called the finding "incredibly" significant.
"The idea that, as my colleagues have repeatedly said in this debate on the other side of the aisle, that there are no weapons of mass destruction is in fact false," Santorum said. "We have found over 500 weapons of mass destruction and in fact have found that there are additional chemical weapons still in the country."
As Cybercast News Service reported on Oct. 6, 2004, the CIA's chief inspector in Iraq provides details that corroborate information contained in 42 pages of Iraqi intelligence documents obtained by CNSNews.com.
The so-called Duelfer report, named for its author, Charles Duelfer, is widely recognized for declaring that no stockpiles of weapons of mass destruction have been found in Iraq. Other details of the report, however, provide a glimpse of what some Iraq experts say is Saddam's attempt to continue to wage war against the U.S. after the first Gulf War ended.
http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewNation.asp?Page=/Nation/archive/200606/NAT20060621e.html
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