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Ann Coulter: America's fiery, blond commentatrix [MARK STEYN on ANN COULTER!]
www.macleans.ca ^ | June 21, 2006 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 06/21/2006 9:17:55 AM PDT by RonDog

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To: RonDog
A few days later, U.S. Immigration sent Mrs. Gilbey a letter informing her that, as she was now a widow, her residence status had changed and they were enclosing a deportation order. Having legally admitted to the country the men who killed her husband, the U.S. government's first act after having enabled his murder is to further traumatize the bereaved.

We need to forever express our embarassment and apologies to this poor woman. We also need to know who was the heartless SOB who did this - his name - and the name of his boss. We need to know whether they are still in their posts, or whether they are now keeping our border secure in the arctic circle.

81 posted on 06/21/2006 11:12:28 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: RonDog
Yet Mrs. Gilbey isn't courted by the TV bookers the way the Jersey Girls are. Hundreds of soldiers' moms believe their sons died in a noble and just cause in Iraq, but it's Cindy Sheehan, who calls Bush "the biggest terrorist in the world," who gets speaking engagements across America, Canada, Britain, Europe and Australia. When Abu Musab al-Zarqawi winds up pushing up daisy cutters, the media don't go to Paul Bigley, who rejoiced that the man who decapitated his brother would now "rot in hell," nor the splendid Aussie Douglas Wood, who called his kidnappers "arseholes," nor his fellow hostage Ulf Hjertstrom, a Swede who's invested 50,000 bucks or so in trying to track down the men who kidnapped him and visit a little reciprocal justice on them. No, instead, the media rush to get the reaction of Michael Berg, who thinks Bush is "the real terrorist" rather than the man who beheaded his son."

Exactly! But now that we have a strong and ever-growing conservative media, we should give a voice to the victims the MSM, will not. They most deserve one.

82 posted on 06/21/2006 11:17:31 AM PDT by TAdams8591 (Ann Coulter = The Conserative Diva)
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To: King Prout
not in chapters eight and nine, it isn't.

Coulter attacks Darwinist faith claims, not science. It is the Darwinist faith claims which form the unholy black soul of liberalism. If you cannot tell the difference between Darwinist faith claims and evidence-based science, you are hopeless.

No one nails the atheist Darwinist faith squealers quite as effectively as Coulter. If you don't like the pain, step away from the target.

83 posted on 06/21/2006 11:27:20 AM PDT by JCEccles
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To: pgyanke

Does it really bother you THAT much that we all don't agree with you?

I have a brain,
I use it....

A am an individual.


84 posted on 06/21/2006 11:28:24 AM PDT by najida (The internet is for kids grown up-- Where else could you have 10,000 imaginary friends?)
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To: sinkspur
even chaps on the right are doing the more-in-sorrow shtick and saying that ... it's such a shame she had to go too far with her cheap shots because that's discredited the entire argument, etc.

I love you, man, but Ann and Mark are right.

85 posted on 06/21/2006 11:29:25 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Build the fence. Sí, Se Puede!)
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To: RonDog
The Democrats are the party of overly emotional females. Liberalism is the ultimate in feminine philosophy. And the Democrats are not called "The Mommy Party" for nothing. Even the men... seem well, overly touchy-feely.

(Denny Crane: "Every one should carry a gun strapped to their waist. We need more - not less guns.")

86 posted on 06/21/2006 11:38:38 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: najida
Does it really bother you THAT much that we all don't agree with you?

You don't have to agree with me... you were trying to bully me into agreeing with you. You are welcome to not use Ann's tactics as you see them as distasteful. I am not wrong, though, to support her and the impact she has had precisely because of those tactics.

This is a point you tried to rebuff and correct over and over--that Steyn agrees with as well. I merely pinged you to this thread so you can overcome your bias that I am wrong to think her tone and message are both essential to spreading her ideas.

87 posted on 06/21/2006 11:55:09 AM PDT by pgyanke (Christ embraces sinners; liberals embrace the sin.)
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To: Guenevere

Ping, in case you haven't seen this.


88 posted on 06/21/2006 12:04:16 PM PDT by kayak (Praying for MozartLover's son, Jemian's son, all our military, and our President every day!)
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To: pgyanke

I apologize if you though I was trying to bully you into changing your opinion. I got the impression you were trying to do the same with me....

I don't want you to change your opinion because of me....
I would want you to change because it's what you truly believe....otherwise, it's just lemmings jumping.

As I've stated repeatedly,
I used to be a fan of Ann's, but I am one no longer. Nor do I desire to change back to being a fan.

She and her opinions and behavior mean not one wit to me.


89 posted on 06/21/2006 12:07:22 PM PDT by najida (The internet is for kids grown up-- Where else could you have 10,000 imaginary friends?)
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To: najida

Bye then.


90 posted on 06/21/2006 12:12:17 PM PDT by pgyanke (Christ embraces sinners; liberals embrace the sin.)
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To: pgyanke

LOL!
You're the one who pinged me!

Hrmpt, see if I make a 'nanner puddin' fer yer birthday.


91 posted on 06/21/2006 12:14:53 PM PDT by najida (The internet is for kids grown up-- Where else could you have 10,000 imaginary friends?)
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To: Alkhin
...Absolutely correct - which is why I suspect Steyn's observation : "But nobody paid the slightest heed to this line. For all the impact my column had, I might as well have done house calls.

Then Coulter comes in and yuks it up with the Playboy-spread gags, and suddenly the Jersey Girls only want to do the super-extra-fluffy puffball interviews.

So two paragraphs in Ann Coulter's book have succeeded in repositioning these ladies: they may still be effective Democrat hackettes,

but I think TV shows will have a harder time passing them off as non-partisan representatives of the 9/11 dead." is the REAL reason why the Leftards are in such a twitter.

Bingo!

As Ann herself describes it -- in the TRANSCRIPT of her interview with Jay Leno, posted on the "after action" thread:

LENO: It's so different than the way I work. Maybe because I'm a comic. See, my thing is, it's sort of more flies with honey. You make your point even if you get a couple of digs in, you make your point.

Whereas it seems to me, the words you've used have overshadowed the point what you were trying to make, to the point where people are upset about you attacking the widows, they don't understand the point you were trying to make.

And I think most people still don't understand the point you were trying to make...

--snip --

COULTER: ...No, I think that is not true, actually.

I mean, other people have written acerbic little remarks about Democrats sending out victims, Cindy Sheehan, Max Cleland, these four women from New Jersey, making the exact same points Howard Dean could be making, but we can attack Howard Dean.

But in this case, their husbands died, their son died, we can't respond. And I don't think the nation's attention has ever been riveted on this victim as spokesman as it has in the last week.

I don't think that trick's going to work anymore.


92 posted on 06/21/2006 12:16:48 PM PDT by RonDog
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To: najida
I pinged you because you were very passionate about your subject the other day. Today it "mean[s] not one wit to me."

There's no point in discussing something that means nothing to you... so goodbye.

93 posted on 06/21/2006 12:19:37 PM PDT by pgyanke (Christ embraces sinners; liberals embrace the sin.)
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To: PatrickHenry; Ichneumon; VadeRetro; js1138; anguish
Ann Coulter's new book Godless: The Church of Liberalism is a rollicking read very tightly reasoned and hard to argue with.

Did he read the same book we did?

I like Steyn; maybe he's come down with the flu or something.

94 posted on 06/21/2006 12:21:37 PM PDT by Junior (Identical fecal matter, alternate diurnal period)
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To: Junior

Hormones?


95 posted on 06/21/2006 12:23:29 PM PDT by js1138 (Well I say there are some things we don't want to know! Important things!")
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To: pgyanke
Seems I'm in good company in my opinion on Ann Coulter's work. Would you like to take issue with Mark Steyn as you did with me for making many of the same points the other day?

This is not an invitation to debate, this is a "See! I'm right cuz he said it!" post. I'm not interested in that, nor would anyone with a spine be interested in that.

Bye now sugar.

96 posted on 06/21/2006 12:25:15 PM PDT by najida (The internet is for kids grown up-- Where else could you have 10,000 imaginary friends?)
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To: JCEccles

Coulter's citations are generally bogus, and her interpretations and characterizations would be laughable were it not for the fact that so many slackjawed decerebrates took her opinions on the subject seriously.


97 posted on 06/21/2006 12:29:25 PM PDT by King Prout (many complain I am overly literal... this would not be a problem if fewer people were under-precise)
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To: Schuck

Not to mention Dennis K, Souter...she sure can write!


98 posted on 06/21/2006 12:29:36 PM PDT by kallisti
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To: najida

Go clean your house. You really are a pompous windbag.


99 posted on 06/21/2006 12:29:50 PM PDT by bfree (Liberalism-the yellow meat)
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To: bfree

I don't do housework....
Don't have a dirt gene.

Pompous windbag?

Nah, I like bloodsucky harpy much better :)

Again,
It really gets to you guys that folks don't agree with you....so funny.


100 posted on 06/21/2006 12:31:15 PM PDT by najida (The internet is for kids grown up-- Where else could you have 10,000 imaginary friends?)
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