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Evolution: World science academies fight back against creationists
PhysOrg.com ^ | 21 June 2006 | Staff

Posted on 06/21/2006 8:33:46 AM PDT by PatrickHenry

In a veiled attack on creationism, the world's foremost academies of science on Wednesday called on parents and teachers to provide children with the facts about evolution and the origins of life on Earth.

A declaration signed by 67 national academies of science blasted the scriptural teaching of biology as a potential distortion of young minds.

"In various parts of the world, within science courses taught in certain public systems of education, scientific evidence, data and testable theories about the origins and evolution of life on Earth are being concealed, denied or confused with theories not testable by science," the declaration said.

"We urge decision-makers, teachers and parents to educate all children about the methods and discoveries of science and to foster an understanding of the science of nature.

"Knowledge of the natural world in which they live empowers people to meet human needs and protect the planet."

Citing "evidence-based facts" derived from observation, experiment and neutral assessment, the declaration points to findings that the Universe is between 11 and 15 billion years old, and the Earth was formed about 4.5 billion years ago.

Life on Earth appeared at least 2.5 billion years ago as a result of physical and chemical processes, and evolved into the species that live today.

"Commonalities in the structure of the genetic code of all organisms living today, including humans, clearly indicate their common primordial origin," it said.

Signatories of the declaration include the US National Academy of Sciences, Britain's Royal Society, the French Academy of Sciences and their counterparts in Canada, China, Germany, Iran, Israel and Japan and elsewhere.
The statement does not name any names or religions, nor does it explain why it fears the teaching of evolution or the scientific explanation for the origins of planetary life are being sidelined.

It comes, however, in the context of mounting concern among biologists about the perceived influence of creationism in the United States.

Evangelical Christians there are campaigning hard for schools to teach creationism or downgrade evolution to the status of one of a competing group of theories about the origins of life on Earth.

According to the website Christian Post (www.christianpost.com), an opinion poll conducted in May by Gallop found that 46 percent of Americans believe that God created humans in their present form within the last 10,000 years or so.

Scientists say hominids emerged around six million years ago and one of their offshoots developed into anatomically modern man, Homo sapiens, about 200,000 years ago, although the timings of both events are fiercely debated.

Nearly every religion offers an explanation as to how life began on Earth.

Fundamentalist Christians insist on a literal interpretation of the Book of Genesis in the Bible, in which God made the world in seven days, culminating in the creation of the first two humans, Adam and Eve.

A variation of this is called "intelligent design" which acknowledges evolution but claims that genetic mutations are guided by God's hand rather than by Charles Darwin's process of natural selection.

US President George W. Bush said last August that he believed in this concept and that he supported its teaching in American schools.

The academies' statement says that science does not seek to offer judgements of value or morality, and acknowledges limitations in current knowledge.

"Science is open-ended and subject to correction and expansion as new theoretical and empirical understanding emerges," it adds.


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To: TheBattman
You can place your trust in what you feel you must, I will place my faith and trust in Jesus Christ - and the book that tells His story - the Bible.

And that's wonderful. Faith is a beautiful thing.

Faith is not the sum total of existence, though. And since you admit that the Bible contains factual errors, it is folly to pretend that it's a science textbook.

Scientific truths do not require "context to be taken into account."

381 posted on 06/21/2006 3:14:30 PM PDT by highball (Proud to announce the birth of little Highball, Junior - Feb. 7, 2006!)
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To: VadeRetro

Says you - I believe my profile page asserts my position(s) rather succintly.

Also I think the biggest divide between creation/evolution arguments is simply - Do you believe in God? After that many assumptions kick in to supposed 'rational' thought processes.

Lastly, I've reviewed much evolution evidence and don't benefit at all from summaries nor philosophies. I do appreciate anything that links to cold-hard facts. Stuff that sticks to the scientific methods and shows all the work. I know no proof is conclusive but it's nice to see all the facts that lead any scientist to a conclusion - no matter what his/her bias. Even better is when they can also openly state their assumptions.


382 posted on 06/21/2006 3:14:58 PM PDT by BrandtMichaels
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To: highball
Faith is a beautiful thing.

Not for me it isn't. It's like wearing waders filled with water. Cumbersome.

383 posted on 06/21/2006 3:17:27 PM PDT by stands2reason (Rivers will run dry and mountains will crumble, but two wrongs will never make a right.)
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To: BrandtMichaels
Also I think the biggest divide between creation/evolution arguments is simply - Do you believe in God?

I know there is a God. Now what?

384 posted on 06/21/2006 3:18:29 PM PDT by stands2reason (Rivers will run dry and mountains will crumble, but two wrongs will never make a right.)
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To: BaBaStooey
...Well, in this part of the world, children are being taught a theory not testable by science. It is called evolution....

Rmember a few months ago Tiktaalik was found? Not only was it an animal predicted by evolution, the paleontologists used evo to decide where to dig. Sounds like it passed yet another test.

385 posted on 06/21/2006 3:23:13 PM PDT by Virginia-American
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To: BrandtMichaels
"It would be nice if they would update all the textbooks to remove those items that are outright fraud (i.e. peppered moths, piltdown man, Darwins' finches, etc.)."

Piltdown is not in any textbooks today. The peppered moth studies and the finches on the Galapagos were not frauds, in any way.
386 posted on 06/21/2006 3:27:17 PM PDT by CarolinaGuitarman (Gas up your tanks!!)
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To: Virginia-American

OK - I don't have much background with ERV nor shared DNA errors but is it possible that these could be attributed to shared living conditions? Is their only one way for these shared errors and gentic markers to appear in DNA?


387 posted on 06/21/2006 3:27:29 PM PDT by BrandtMichaels
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To: One_who_hopes_to_know

Why don't you actually read it?

Again, if you hopes to know you have to open your eyes.


388 posted on 06/21/2006 3:28:32 PM PDT by furball4paws (Awful Offal)
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To: stands2reason

The next step is up to you. I think you might want to re-examine the Gospels to see if maybe you were mistaken rather than assuming errors with God's Word. I have seen/heard several apparent contradictions that were/are easily explained by those willing to study God's Word more in depth (i.e. learning Hebrew/Greek for starters).


389 posted on 06/21/2006 3:33:17 PM PDT by BrandtMichaels
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To: CarolinaGuitarman
I could argue the peppered moth and the finches but then you would benefit much more from reading the book I referenced. How about Behe's book too Darwin's Black Box ?
390 posted on 06/21/2006 3:36:39 PM PDT by BrandtMichaels
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To: BaBaStooey; Oztrich Boy
...since the combination of a human-like cranium with an ape-like jaw tended to support the notion then prevailing in England that human evolution was brain-led.

So it is clear that at the time, leading evolutionists such as Woodward championed the discovery of Piltdown man as evidence of the theory of evolution being right.

No, it was supposed to be evidence for the highlighted theory about human origins. The ToE itself was not in question.

391 posted on 06/21/2006 3:38:11 PM PDT by Virginia-American
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To: BrandtMichaels
In two posts I've just dumped twenty barrels of facts over your head. They inevitably point to common descent, which given the diversity of life can only mean macroevolution.

And you're just thumping chest and pointing to your home page? Hello? What's your home page against the science of the last 150, 200 years?

BTW, being a YEC means you don't have a problem with just evolution or even just biology. You don't like geology, astronomy, nuclear chemistry, paleontology to name a few things. A lot of findings from a lot of disciplines say the Earth and universe are old. (About 4.5 and 13.7 billion years, respectively.)

I won't even bother posting all the evidence for THAT stuff. It's wasted on the people who don't need it and also on the people who do.

392 posted on 06/21/2006 3:38:46 PM PDT by VadeRetro (Faster than a speeding building; able to leap tall bullets at a single bound!)
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To: MineralMan

Man!! That's got to be Freudian.


393 posted on 06/21/2006 3:42:20 PM PDT by furball4paws (Awful Offal)
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To: BrandtMichaels
My last post on Darwin's Black Box. And what's a YECy-boy doing waving around a guy who accepts common descent and an old Earth?

For a great discussion of Ann Coulter AND creationist misstatements on the peppered moths, try the Panda's Thumb review of Godless. Jonathan Well's treatment has all the same problems, BTW.

394 posted on 06/21/2006 3:44:52 PM PDT by VadeRetro (Faster than a speeding building; able to leap tall bullets at a single bound!)
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To: BrandtMichaels
"I could argue the peppered moth and the finches..."

But you would be wrong if you did. They are perfectly legitimate examples of natural selection at work. No fraud, at all.

"How about Behe's book too Darwin's Black Box ?"

Does that show where the peppered moth studies and the studies with the finches are a fraud? If not, why bring it up?
395 posted on 06/21/2006 3:48:03 PM PDT by CarolinaGuitarman (Gas up your tanks!!)
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To: balrog666; BaBaStooey; js1138
You must think that creationists have no brains at all.

No, some of them, like Hovind, are clever in a Clintonseque sort of way. I'd say they need the other gifts of the Wizard, courage and a conscience.

396 posted on 06/21/2006 3:51:43 PM PDT by Virginia-American
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To: VadeRetro; CarolinaGuitarman

I brought up Behe's book because the evolutionary explanantion(s) for macro-evolution just don't fit with the number of 'miracles' required. I'm sorry VadeRetro if you think I'm not allowed to reference a book if I don't agree with the author 100%.

Clearly, the advances in microbiology leave evolution wanting.


397 posted on 06/21/2006 4:04:30 PM PDT by BrandtMichaels
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To: BrandtMichaels
"I brought up Behe's book because the evolutionary explanantion(s) for macro-evolution just don't fit with the number of 'miracles' required."

So it was indeed an evasion from your original claims about frauds. I see.

I didn't think you could defend your claims anyway, so my expectations were fulfilled.
398 posted on 06/21/2006 4:07:14 PM PDT by CarolinaGuitarman (Gas up your tanks!!)
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To: BrandtMichaels

As a practicing microbiologist with many years experience, I can assure you all recent advances (and old ones too from Pasteur on) fit quite firmly and comfortably within the framework of Evolution. If you have evidence to the contrary I'd love to hear it.


399 posted on 06/21/2006 4:09:16 PM PDT by furball4paws (Awful Offal)
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To: RightWhale; MineralMan
Einstein was not thinking in particular of the propagation of light as a means of measuring occurrence of events. He assumed the propagation of light as his standard for defining time only because it was the best known and steady such process.

Einstein deduced the constancy of c from his assumption that physical laws do not depend on the inertial frame. Assuming this, if you measure the constants that are used in Maxwell's equations you will get the same values no matter how fast you are moving. Then Maxwell can be used to calculate c.

400 posted on 06/21/2006 4:10:43 PM PDT by Virginia-American
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