[Antoninus]

Its a small jump from paying to!.. and worship as an "idol"..

Uh, no it's not. I may ask my very holy deceased grandmother to pray for me too, but I'm not "worshiping" her as an idol. Heck, when I ask a fellow Christian to pray for me, does that mean I'm worshiping them too?

You seem to be woefully ignorant of "protestant" dogma on the subject and fully enmeshed in Roman Catholic dogma.

No, I just believe what the Catholic Church, the Orthodox Church, and all of the Early Church Fathers taught about the subject--not what some Protie-come-lately has to say.

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[ No, I just believe what the Catholic Church, the Orthodox Church, and all of the Early Church Fathers taught about the subject--not what some Protie-come-lately has to say. ]

Hmmmm... As Jesus said, "The sheep MUST be separated from the goats".. That is a good thing..