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Iraqi: U.S. Bodies Showed Signs of Torture (Islamic Group Claims Responsibility!)
Yahooooo via AP ^ | 6/19/06

Posted on 06/20/2006 6:26:39 AM PDT by areafiftyone

BAGHDAD, Iraq - An Iraqi military official said Tuesday that the bodies of two missing U.S. soldiers showed signs of torture, and that men appeared to have been killed "in a barbaric way." Also, the umbrella group for Iraqi insurgents claimed responsibility for the soldiers' deaths.

"We give the good news ... to the Islamic nation that we have carried God's verdict by slaughtering the two captured crusaders," said a statement in the name of the Mujahedeen Shura Council, which groups five insurgent organizations including al-Qaida in Iraq.

At a news briefing, U.S. Maj. Gen. William Caldwell declined to identify the two men until their families could be notified.

Pfc. Kristian Menchaca, 23, of Houston, and Pfc. Thomas L. Tucker, 25, of Madras, Ore., disappeared after an insurgent attack Friday at a checkpoint by a Euphrates River canal south of Baghdad. Spc. David J. Babineau, 25, of Springfield, Mass., was killed.

The checkpoint was in the Sunni Arab region known as the "Triangle of Death" because of frequent ambushes there of U.S. soldiers and Iraqi troops.

The three men were assigned to the 1st Battalion, 502nd Infantry Regiment, 2nd Brigade, 101st Airborne Division from Fort Campbell, Kentucky.

"The news is going to be heartbreaking for my family," Menchaca's uncle, Ken MacKenzie, told NBC's "Today" show.

He said the United States should have paid a ransom for the two soldiers from money seized from Saddam Hussein.

"I think the U.S. was too slow to react to this," MacKenzie said. "Because the U.S. did not have a plan in place, my nephew has paid with his life."

The director of the Iraqi defense military's operation room, Maj. Gen. Abdul-Aziz Mohammed, said the two bodies were found on a street near the town Youssifiyah, close to the scene of the attack. The U.S. military could not confirm that account.

Caldwell, the chief U.S. military spokesman in Baghdad, said details of what happened to the two missing soldiers and about the bodies found would be released later Tuesday after the families of the soldiers were informed.

"Until we know the families have been both briefed and have been fully informed ... it would be inappropriate," he said.

A search involving more than 8,000 Iraqi and American troops turned up nothing over the weekend, but troops searching for the soldiers killed three suspected insurgents and detained 34 in fighting that also left seven U.S. servicemen wounded, Caldwell said.

A farmer claiming to have witnessed the attack told The Associated Press on Sunday that insurgents swarmed the checkpoint, killing the driver of a Humvee before taking two of his comrades captive.

Ahmed Khalaf Falah said three Humvees were manning a checkpoint when they came under fire from many directions. Two Humvees went after the assailants but the third was ambushed before it could move.

He said seven masked gunmen, one carrying a heavy machine gun, killed the driver of the third vehicle and took the two other U.S. soldiers captive. His account could not be verified independently.

Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari also said the soldiers appeared to have been taken prisoner by insurgents.

The military said Saturday that soldiers at a nearby checkpoint heard small-arms fire and explosions during the attack at 7:15 p.m. Friday, and a quick-reaction force reached the scene within 15 minutes. The force found one soldier dead but no signs of the other two.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: fallen; iraq; islam; menchaca; oif; soldierskilled; thomastucker; torture
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To: jonascord

One can hope.


61 posted on 06/20/2006 6:54:40 AM PDT by null and void (Thousands of geniuses live and die undiscovered -- either by themselves or by others)
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To: areafiftyone

Prayers to the families of the two soldiers, but also prayers to all of our heros in Iraq!


62 posted on 06/20/2006 6:56:36 AM PDT by richardtavor (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem in the name of the G-d of Jacob)
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To: New Girl

Exactly. We don't have the media and 99.9% of the Democrats on our side and these terrorists know it. They use the media for their purposes and the media doesn't even care because they hate Bush so much that they will side with terrorists just to spite Bush.


63 posted on 06/20/2006 6:56:41 AM PDT by areafiftyone (Politicans Are Like Diapers - Both Need To Be Changed Often And For the Same Reason!)
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To: jonascord

"The US military is quite able to play hardball."

They are able to play but they will not for fear of offending the PC community. They would rather let this war drag out, have more of our soldiers killed or maimed, then fight it the right way. Nothing will change this.


64 posted on 06/20/2006 6:56:42 AM PDT by New Girl
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To: SMM48
This pisses me off. Our guys get tortured while we tip-toe around trying to fight a PC war so as not to "offend" anyone. The "insurgents" need to suffer a mass slaughter in order to send a message.

I agree. We need to drop some more of the 500-pounders.

They are routing out quite a few of them, though. And there are some more offensives planned.

65 posted on 06/20/2006 6:57:28 AM PDT by Allegra (Mookie Sadr's Next!)
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To: New Girl

Heh! Yeah.

And trucking Jihad Sheehan's butt around the world on their dime.

Looks like she may have another friend, though. Isn't that nice.... *retch*


66 posted on 06/20/2006 6:57:58 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Roll your own cigarettes! You'll save $$$ and smoke less!(Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name)
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To: areafiftyone

67 posted on 06/20/2006 6:58:01 AM PDT by Clive
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To: truthkeeper

I don't think the media will shut it up but use it to make a case that we should cut and run.


68 posted on 06/20/2006 6:58:40 AM PDT by BunnySlippers (NUTS!)
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To: New Girl

Of course, I forgot. American miliary forces are expendable and have no such human rights that are applicable to them.

Silly me...


69 posted on 06/20/2006 6:58:48 AM PDT by prairiebreeze (“Double or triple our troubles and we would still be better off than any people on earth.”---Reagan)
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To: New Girl; All

Seems to me that the only thing these islamics understand is torture and beheadings so I say why not give them what they want? Capture a bunch of them and behead them - and watch them squirm.


70 posted on 06/20/2006 6:59:13 AM PDT by areafiftyone (Politicans Are Like Diapers - Both Need To Be Changed Often And For the Same Reason!)
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To: Clive

They got the right idea! It's the only thing these Islamic devils understand!


71 posted on 06/20/2006 6:59:56 AM PDT by areafiftyone (Politicans Are Like Diapers - Both Need To Be Changed Often And For the Same Reason!)
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To: All

unleash the Dogs, Pres. Bush.....unleash 'em......now!!!!


72 posted on 06/20/2006 7:00:04 AM PDT by is_is (VPD of Lcpl Daniel - USMC , 2/5 - Somewhere in the Pacific)
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To: Clive

What is that? British troops about to test the aerodynamics of an, "Insurgent?"


73 posted on 06/20/2006 7:00:31 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Roll your own cigarettes! You'll save $$$ and smoke less!(Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name)
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To: jonascord
Indeed, I have a modest proposal for a political experiment:

We're a little busy 'nation building' in Iraq right now. Let's do a side-by-side comparison in Iran.

In one country, we try to build a democracy.

The other we bomb up to the stone age, and let them do their own damm 'nation building', if they can.

If not, Oh well...
74 posted on 06/20/2006 7:00:56 AM PDT by null and void (Thousands of geniuses live and die undiscovered -- either by themselves or by others)
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To: Clive

Image information?
Title?
Artist? Thanks.


75 posted on 06/20/2006 7:02:20 AM PDT by TET1968 (SI MINOR PLUS EST ERGO NIHIL SUNT OMNIA)
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To: areafiftyone

The Dems/MSM will not blame the terrorists.

It is "our" fault for being there; it is Bush's fault; it is the Army's fault.

Terrorist thugs took our soldiers, tortured and killed them. When will the American people get angry over acts like this?


76 posted on 06/20/2006 7:02:43 AM PDT by rightinthemiddle (Islamic Terrorists, the Mainstream Media and the Democrat Party Have the Same Goals in Iraq.)
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To: Red Badger

Howard Dean.. (no difference I guess... :-) )


77 posted on 06/20/2006 7:03:10 AM PDT by nikos1121
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To: areafiftyone
media doesn't even care because they hate Bush so much that they will side with terrorists just to spite Bush.

They hate him so much they would polish Satan's hooves with their tongues, if they thought it would hurt Bush.

78 posted on 06/20/2006 7:03:12 AM PDT by null and void (Thousands of geniuses live and die undiscovered -- either by themselves or by others)
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To: el_texicano
I sure hope we find their torturers? how about the American public who don't stand behind our Commander in chief? how about liberals saying we cannot win this war? How about shutting down Congress and the Senate until this is done? Stop arguing about pulling out and let these men do their jobs! Who is going to stand up? Who is going to say we want this done and we want to rain the fire of the US military on these people so hard they won't want to see a picture of a weapon in fear of retribution?

Right now the Iraqis are scared to death of the insurgents. You want to win this war, we win it the hard way and the old fashioned way. WE instill the fear. We make them say they would rather give up the insurgents then face the wrath of the Americans. This is war. Men get tortured and for what? Stacking bodies on top of one another is NOT torture. The military will not release what these men went through because the libs will play it out and say it's our fault.

What do people not understand? because we are invading their lands they suddenly came up with the idea "down with America"? This has been going on for decades! These islamofascists need to be taught a lesson and that does not include winning the hearts and minds. they want to deal in fear and torture, well guess what, we can give it right back 100 times. You catch an insurgent, you do NOT put them i jail. You tie them up to th back of a Hummer and you pull them through Ramadi. Wanna play with the big boys, you better be able to take what you are handed.

Stop with this politically correct nonsense and start winning this war faster! Yes yes, these things happen in war. they would NOT happen if we took care of things the way they should be.

I am pissed right now. i am sitting here on the Syrian border and I have to hear about 2 of my own being tortured because partisan politics won't let us get the damn job done. Kerry is a traitor. I do not care what anyone says. libs lookup to a man that admits defeat. the strongest military maybe in the history of civilization and you claim this war is unwinnable!?!? h How dare you! I hope you wiped after that huge s*it you just took on every one of us over here.

SHUT THE LIBS THE HELL UP, GET THE MEDIA OUT, AND LET US END THIS ONCE AND FOR ALL!!!!!!
79 posted on 06/20/2006 7:04:19 AM PDT by albyjimc2 (If dying's asked of me, I'll bear that cross with honor, cause freedom don't come free...)
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To: rightinthemiddle; All
The Dems/MSM will not blame the terrorists.

I lurked on DU and they are blaming Bush/Cheney Rice and Rumsfeld and saying this is colateral damage for the Bush war and saying they are murderous savages just like Bush yada yada yada. They will never blame the terrorist they already started blaming Bush.

80 posted on 06/20/2006 7:05:30 AM PDT by areafiftyone (Politicans Are Like Diapers - Both Need To Be Changed Often And For the Same Reason!)
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