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To: MEGoody
I guess if you define 'violence' as being arrested and put in jail, then I'd say the latter is correct.

Yes, being arrested at gunpoint is violence. Ever had a gun pointed at you? Then you would know what violence is.

And all laws, even those which do not defend the rights of the citizens are enFORCED by violence or the threat thereof. So we agree, right?

Are you saying only conservatives make and enforce laws? Is making and enforcing laws a bad thing? Are you in favor of doing away with all laws?

Those are some of the most bizarre questions or leaps to goofy conclusions I have ever seen. Hard to say what would make a person make such statements.

211 posted on 06/27/2006 7:54:12 PM PDT by Protagoras (("Minimum-wage laws are one of the most powerful tools in the arsenal of racists." - Walter Williams)
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To: Protagoras
Yes, being arrested at gunpoint is violence.

Not all arrests are done with guns drawn, so I presume you would agree not all arrests are 'violent'.

Ever had a gun pointed at you? Then you would know what violence is.

No, I've not had a gun pointed at me. Apparently, we had different definitions of violence. I don't consider it violent unless bodily injury occurs.

And all laws, even those which do not defend the rights of the citizens are enFORCED by violence or the threat thereof. So we agree, right?

The most we can agree on is that laws are SOMETIMES enforced using violence. Police don't even always threaten violence. Of course, our definitions of 'threatening violence' could be different too.

Those are some of the most bizarre questions or leaps to goofy conclusions I have ever seen.

Not at all, considering your original statement, which was:

Conservatism, OTOH, is rooted in the concept of using violence to enforce what they perceive to be God's will.

So, the questions are still open. They are:

Are you saying only conservatives make and enforce laws? Is making and enforcing laws a bad thing? Are you in favor of doing away with all laws?

If you wish not to answer these questions, don't. But I would have to wonder what you are afraid of revealing by answering them.

212 posted on 06/28/2006 9:35:38 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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