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Valedictorian's speech cut short by school district
KBBC - Las Vegas ^ | 6-16-06

Posted on 06/19/2006 2:02:05 PM PDT by Indy Pendance

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To: Indy Pendance

How is this different from what the Stalinists used to do?
And who still says that this is a "free" country?


101 posted on 06/19/2006 3:04:55 PM PDT by BooksForTheRight.com (what have you done today to fight terrorism/leftism (same thing!))
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To: jwalsh07

Soooo cute


102 posted on 06/19/2006 3:06:37 PM PDT by PeteB570 (Sharia. Coming to a town near you.)
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To: Indy Pendance
er, uh...make that "pet causes"
HF
103 posted on 06/19/2006 3:08:08 PM PDT by holden (holden on'a'na truth, de whole truth, 'n nuttin' but de truth)
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To: Indy Pendance
If the girl had taken a cucumber and demonstrated how to put a condom on while she was speaking, she could have said whatever she wanted./sarc.
104 posted on 06/19/2006 3:09:14 PM PDT by BruceysMom (.I'm hot & not in a good way, menopause ain't for sissies.)
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To: highimpact
You are absolutely correct. However, the story states the school has a rule that "students are required to submit their speeches in writing ahead of time and they're told if they deviate from the script at all, their microphones will be cut off". If this rule was violated, the school's action seems appropriate. If what the school says is true, this is not a separation of church and state issue.
105 posted on 06/19/2006 3:09:53 PM PDT by obnogs (We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. - Einstein)
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To: HitmanLV

You know you're in trouble when they start with 'I'll keep this short'.


106 posted on 06/19/2006 3:10:34 PM PDT by Indy Pendance
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To: Indy Pendance
We're told students are required to submit their speeches in writing ahead of time and they're told if they deviate from the script at all, their microphones will be cut off.

Zee meeneestry of Truth has written the speech you vill giff.

Yavol, mein Furher!

Shalom.

107 posted on 06/19/2006 3:10:58 PM PDT by ArGee (The Ring must not be allowed to fall into Hillary's hands!)
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To: HIDEK6
Butt wipes is more like it. Liberal slime. Feces on the ground.
108 posted on 06/19/2006 3:11:53 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (JULY 1ST IS FREEDOM DAY!! WE MOVE OUT OF WA STATE FOREVER!!!!)
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To: Restorer
When they cut her mike, wouldn't it have been cool if she'd calmly pulled out the bullhorn hidden under her robe and finished her speech?

I thought this exact thought....

109 posted on 06/19/2006 3:12:07 PM PDT by Red Boots
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To: staytrue

I have no trouble with that at all. People who attribute good to Satan are generally serious moonbats and never Valedictorians. And even if it happened, they'd be booed off the stage.

I DO have trouble with this:

"We're told students are required to submit their speeches in writing ahead of time and they're told if they deviate from the script at all, their microphones will be cut off."

If ever there was a fascist policy, this sounds like it. No offensive language or obscenities (or else the ACLU would be defending her...) rather just faith in her own religion--speaking for herself. Cutting microphones off because of God sounds more like Soviet era management, not America.


110 posted on 06/19/2006 3:13:46 PM PDT by AnalogReigns
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To: Indy Pendance
Ain't that the truth! I never liked long speeches: to me they show disrepsect for the audience. If you can't make your point in 5-10 minutes and keep things moving, you better start editing your thoughts.
111 posted on 06/19/2006 3:13:49 PM PDT by HitmanLV ("5 Minute Penalty for #40, Ann Theresa Calvello!" - RIP 1929-2006)
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To: Indy Pendance

If she was told not to talk about it before she went up to speak, why did she do it? It's not an assault on free speech under those circumstances.

If some jerk actor is told not to make a politcal speech when accepting an award and his mic is turned off I think that is right. Same here.


112 posted on 06/19/2006 3:14:56 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (We want our day: A day without hearing SPANISH ...)
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To: staytrue
anyone have a problem with the following

It would be equally wrong to abridge free speech in the scenario you describe.

113 posted on 06/19/2006 3:15:30 PM PDT by Sloth (We cannot defeat foreign enemies of the Constitution if we yield to the domestic ones.)
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To: Indy Pendance

For laughs, one thing I always do at stuff like jury duty, large meetings at my old law firm, etc where there are a lot of people in a room or sitting at a large table. I walk in and go the the head of the table and announce 'I'm sure you're wondering why I called you all here, today..."

Everone in the room, of course, wonders exactly who the idiot in the front of the room is. Some laughter usually follows and then the room 'gets it' and laughs!

Never fails! Good icebreaker, too. :-)


114 posted on 06/19/2006 3:16:07 PM PDT by HitmanLV ("5 Minute Penalty for #40, Ann Theresa Calvello!" - RIP 1929-2006)
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To: PeteB570

A valedictory speech is an editorial earned by the best student in a class. The valedictorian can say whatever he/she wants to unless it violates public indecency laws. To think otherwise is evidence of how pathetic our society has become.


115 posted on 06/19/2006 3:17:28 PM PDT by Flightdeck (Go Longhorns)
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To: HitmanLV

I've had two college graduations, both were brutal. The first, I was a single mom, got an engineer degree. My kids were 9, 11 and 12. It was a cermony for them, my family and friends who helped me acheive that. The second, my master's was a party. Actually, after were were told how bad blacks are treated, on mother's day, our group left the cermony and went to the bar. (we were respectful in the fact that we didn't leave during her speach), but the beach ball had a ton of fun during her speach.


116 posted on 06/19/2006 3:17:58 PM PDT by Indy Pendance
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To: AnalogReigns

So if she got up to ramble on about how "Bush lied" you'd be okay with it? She was told not to do it ..., she clearly can't follow instructions.


117 posted on 06/19/2006 3:18:51 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (We want our day: A day without hearing SPANISH ...)
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To: BunnySlippers

Would she have been told not to talk about the gay community, if she was gay? Would she been told not to talk about Allah? But mention God, it's like, get out the garlic.


118 posted on 06/19/2006 3:19:27 PM PDT by Indy Pendance
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To: fr_freak; staytrue

"So, in effect, the Constitution is a limit on the FEDERAL government. Even the first amendment states quite clearly that CONGRESS shall make no law..."

Exactly. So when CONGRESS provides funding to public schools via grants to the States, CONGRESS has passed a law. That's fine, as you say, as long as there is no endorsement of religion involved. If there is religion involved, then CONGRESS would have erred by passing the law providing funding.

Since everyone attending a high-school graduation is aware that the Valedictorian speech would need to be vetted and approved, and that the school is a public one receiving funding from a law passed by CONGRESS, they had a reasonable expectation that there would be no religious sermonizing included.

This is just one more reason why the federal government should be very limited in what it provides funding for or makes other laws about. It is very easy for it to run afoul of the restrictions the Constitution places on the federal government.


119 posted on 06/19/2006 3:19:39 PM PDT by Kellis91789 (I don't make jokes. I just watch the government and report the facts. --Will Rogers)
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To: Indy Pendance
As I read through some of the posts I am conscious of two possible alternatives Britany could have used.

#1) Thank you. The school has determined that my thoughts are not worthy to share with you, so I will not be giving my speech. (sits down)

#2) Thank you. I had a speech written. But in my speech I mention how I owe my success to G-d, and the school has determined I cannot tell you that. I mention in that speech that I am always thankful to G-d because His love is so great, but the school has determined I cannot tell you that. In that speech I say that .... therefore, I will not be giving my speech. (sits down)

Either one would have been fine with me.

Shalom.

120 posted on 06/19/2006 3:19:43 PM PDT by ArGee (The Ring must not be allowed to fall into Hillary's hands!)
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