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North American Union Would Trump U.S. Supreme Court
Human Events Online ^ | Jun 19, 2006 | Jerome R. Corsi

Posted on 06/19/2006 7:37:30 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer

The Bush Administration is pushing to create a North American Union out of the work on-going in the Department of Commerce under the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America in the NAFTA office headed by Geri Word. A key part of the plan is to expand the NAFTA tribunals into a North American Union court system that would have supremacy over all U.S. law, even over the U.S. Supreme Court, in any matter related to the trilateral political and economic integration of the United States, Canada and Mexico.

Right now, Chapter 11 of the NAFTA agreement allows a private NAFTA foreign investor to sue the U.S. government if the investor believes a state or federal law damages the investor’s NAFTA business.

Under Chapter 11, NAFTA establishes a tribunal that conducts a behind closed-doors “trial” to decide the case according to the legal principals established by either the World Bank’s International Centre for the Settlement of Investment Disputes or the UN’s Commission for International Trade Law. If the decision is adverse to the U.S., the NAFTA tribunal can impose its decision as final, trumping U.S. law, even as decided by the U.S. Supreme Court. U.S. laws can be effectively overturned and the NAFTA Chapter 11 tribunal can impose millions or billions of dollars in fines on the U.S. government, to be paid ultimately by the U.S. taxpayer.

On Aug. 9, 2005, a three-member NAFTA tribunal dismissed a $970 million claim filed by Methanex Corp., a Canadian methanol producer challenging California laws that regulate against the gasoline additive MTBE. The additive MTBE was introduced into gasoline to reduce air pollution from motor vehicle emissions. California regulations restricted the use of MTBE after the additive was found to contaminate drinking water and produce a health hazard. Had the case been decided differently, California’s MTBE regulations would have been overturned and U.S. taxpayers forced to pay Methanex millions in damages.

While this case was decided favorably to U.S. laws, we can rest assured that sooner or later a U.S. law will be overruled by the NAFTA Chapter 11 adjudicative procedure, as long as the determinant law adjudicated by the NAFTA Chapter 11 tribunals continues to derive from World Court or UN law. Once a North American Union court structure is in place can almost certainly predict that a 2nd Amendment challenge to the right to bear arms is as inevitable under a North American Union court structure as is a challenge to our 1st Amendment free speech laws. Citizens of both Canada and Mexico cannot freely own firearms. Nor can Canadians or Mexicans speak out freely without worrying about “hate crimes” legislation or other political restrictions on what they may choose to say.

Like it or not, NAFTA Chapter 11 tribunals already empower foreign NAFTA investors and corporations to challenge the sovereignty of U.S. law in the United States. Sen. John Kerry (D.-Mass.) has been quoted as saying, “When we debated NAFTA, not a single word was uttered in discussing Chapter 11. Why? Because we didn’t know how this provision would play out. No one really knew just how high the stakes would get.” Again, we have abundant proof that Congress is unbelievably lax when it comes to something as fundamental as reading or understanding the complex laws our elected legislators typically pass.

Under the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) plan expressed in May 2005 for building NAFTA into a North American Union, the stakes are about to get even higher. A task force report titled “Building a North American Community” was written to provide a blueprint for the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America agreement signed by President Bush in his meeting with President Fox and Canada’s then-Prime Minister Paul Martin in Waco, Tex., on March 23, 2005.

The CFR plan clearly calls for the establishment of a “permanent tribunal for North American dispute resolution” as part of the new regional North American Union (NAU) governmental structure that is proposed to go into place in 2010. As the CFR report details on page 22:

The current NAFTA dispute-resolution process is founded on ad hoc panels that are not capable of building institutional memory or establishing precedent, may be subject to conflicts of interest, and are appointed by authorities who may have an incentive to delay a given proceeding. As demonstrated by the efficiency of the World Trade Organization (WTO) appeal process, a permanent tribunal would likely encourage faster, more consistent and more predictable resolution of disputes. In addition, there is a need to review the workings of NAFTA’s dispute-settlement mechanism to make it more efficient, transparent, and effective.

Robert Pastor of American University, the vice chairman of the CFR task force report, provided much of the intellectual justification for the formation of the North American Union. He has repeatedly argued for the creation of a North American Union “Permanent Tribunal on Trade and Investment.” Pastor understands that a “permanent court would permit the accumulation of precedent and lay the groundwork for North American business law.” Notice, Pastor says nothing about U.S. business law or the U.S. Supreme Court. In the view of the globalists pushing toward the formation of the North American Union, the U.S. is a partisan nation-state whose limitations of economic protectionism and provincial self-interest are outdated and as such must be transcended, even if the price involves sacrificing U.S. national sovereignty.

When it comes to the question of illegal immigrants, Pastor’s solution is to erase our borders with Mexico and Canada so we can issue North American Union passports to all citizens. In his testimony to the Subcommittee on the Western Hemisphere of the U.S. Senate Foreign Relations Committee on June 9, 2005, Pastor made this exact argument: “Instead of stopping North Americans on the borders, we ought to provide them with a secure, biometric Border Pass that would ease transit across the border like an E-Z pass permits our cars to speed though toll booths.”

Even Pastor worries about the potential for North American Unions to overturn U.S. laws that he likes. Regarding environmental laws, Pastor’s testimony to the Trilateral Commission in November 2002 was clear on this point: “Some narrowing or clarification of the scope of Chapter 11 panels on foreign investment is also needed to permit the erosion of environmental rules.” Evidently it did not occur to Pastor that the way to achieve the protection he sought was to leave the sovereignty of U.S. and the supremacy of the U.S. Supreme Court intact.

The executive branch under the Bush Administration is quietly putting in place a behind-the-scenes trilateral regulatory scheme, evidently without any direct congressional input, that should provide the rules by which any NAFTA or NAU court would examine when adjudicating NAU trade disputes. The June 2005 report by the SPP working groups organized in the U.S. Department of Commerce, clearly states the goal:

We will develop a trilateral Regulatory Cooperative Framework by 2007 to support and enhance existing, as well as encourage new cooperation among regulators, including at the outset of the regulatory process.

We wonder if the Bush Administration intends to present the Trilateral Regulatory Cooperative Framework now being constructed by SPP.gov to Congress for review in 2007, or will the administration simply continue along the path of knitting together the new NAU regional governmental structure behind closed doors by executive fiat? Ms. Word affirms that the membership of the various SPP working group committees has not been published. Nor have the many memorandums of understanding and other trilateral agreements created by these SPP working groups been published, not even on the Internet.


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To: LachlanMinnesota

This clause is to establish that the laws of the federal government (including treaties) are to have precedence over that of the states. It does not put the agreements established by treaty above those of the Constitution.

I'm not a lawyer, but my small dose of legal training says that the courts aren't going to be excluded when someone challenges a treaty provision as a violation of the Constitution.

Treaties are on the same level as all other federal laws. However, this means that they can't violate the Constitution the same way that Congress can't by passing unconstitutional laws.


61 posted on 06/19/2006 8:23:43 AM PDT by Comstock1 (If it's a miracle, Colour Sergeant, it's a short chamber Boxer Henry point 45 caliber miracle.)
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To: Jason_b; Eastbound

The police and army will do what the politicians say.
After all, we elected them. Even though there wasn't a real choice.

And if the court had upheld it, police would have followed through taking every gun in NO no matter how they felt and nobody would have resisted.


62 posted on 06/19/2006 8:24:48 AM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
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To: 1rudeboy

You should call your friends and demonstrate. I have some well used Mexican Flags I found after one of the local demonstrations, I will sell you cheap.


63 posted on 06/19/2006 8:25:11 AM PDT by tertiary01 (Soviet style debating tactics invented tinfoiling the opposition.)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

The world goes round no matter what we do. There is usually a tit for every tat.


64 posted on 06/19/2006 8:25:12 AM PDT by Comstock1 (If it's a miracle, Colour Sergeant, it's a short chamber Boxer Henry point 45 caliber miracle.)
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To: Comstock1
Treaties are on the same level as all other federal laws. However, this means that they can't violate the Constitution the same way that Congress can't by passing unconstitutional laws.

shhhhhh :)

Don't poke too many holes in the conspiracy theory. It might stop the fun :)
65 posted on 06/19/2006 8:25:12 AM PDT by MikefromOhio (aka MikeinIraq - Foreman of the NAU)
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To: LachlanMinnesota
OMG, I inadvertently started a discussion of Marbury! Run for the hills! :)

Marbury "authorizes" the Supreme Court to review acts of Congress. A treaty, or a "trade agreement" for that matter, ultimately is such a thing.

66 posted on 06/19/2006 8:25:24 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: AmishDude
Yes: Does it hurt?

Not at all. Perhaps it would if I were a simple minded country boy, but that certainly is not the case.

67 posted on 06/19/2006 8:25:35 AM PDT by Theoden (Liberate te ex inferis)
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To: Comstock1

I would probably agree with you as to how this is interpreted, but I was hoping some legal eagle would have a case in mind that the court actually agreed with that interpretation as well.

Sometimes the courts have done some weird things, like saying that you could take private land for someone else to develop for profit, and I would hate for that attidtude to bleed into other areas.

Oh well, I gusss I'll live with the mystery...


68 posted on 06/19/2006 8:26:29 AM PDT by LachlanMinnesota
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To: LachlanMinnesota
Does this clause place treaties on the same level with the constitution as the "supreme Law of the Land?"
That is the argument that is being, and will be made. That n"we the people" would allow the Congress to treaty on things they had no authority to legislate on would have been a bazaar thought to the founders I believe. Therefore, this situation was not addressed in the Constitution.

Cordially,
GE
69 posted on 06/19/2006 8:29:12 AM PDT by GrandEagle
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To: 1rudeboy

I better read the case berffore I say something stupid about it, since I thought it was about honoring an appointment of a person made by a person in the prior administration, because the subsequent administration did not honor that appoitnment. I could be wrong, so no need to run for the hills...I'll quit.


70 posted on 06/19/2006 8:29:19 AM PDT by LachlanMinnesota
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To: tertiary01; 1rudeboy
You should call your friends and demonstrate. I have some well used Mexican Flags I found after one of the local demonstrations, I will sell you cheap.

And now the REAL reason for this entire episode shows it's ugly head.........unless I'm mistaken....which it doesn't feel like.....
71 posted on 06/19/2006 8:31:45 AM PDT by MikefromOhio (aka MikeinIraq - Foreman of the NAU)
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To: LachlanMinnesota

My concern is that a president will enter into a treaty, and 2/3 of the Senate will ratify it, an it will erode our constitutional rights.


It would also need 2/3rds of the states to approve. I don't see that happening.


72 posted on 06/19/2006 8:32:03 AM PDT by samson1097
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To: 1rudeboy

Not to mention that Article III gives the power to review treaties to the courts.

Marbury was always a favorite case. Basically, the Supreme Court gets the final say because the court says it does. I never understood why none of the other branches challenged this at the time--the language in Article III doesn't support this to my mind--but that would describe about half of their decisions to me also.


73 posted on 06/19/2006 8:32:40 AM PDT by Comstock1 (If it's a miracle, Colour Sergeant, it's a short chamber Boxer Henry point 45 caliber miracle.)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide
"The police and army will do what the politicians say."

Don't bet on it. New Orleans was a wake-up call on both sides of the fence.

74 posted on 06/19/2006 8:33:42 AM PDT by Eastbound
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To: samson1097
It would also need 2/3rds of the states to approve. I don't see that happening.

States don't get to vote on treaties.

75 posted on 06/19/2006 8:34:05 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists so bad at math?)
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To: LachlanMinnesota
I'm not going to do any research on this--too many late nights back in school doing it for a degree I ultimately decided I didn't want. However, for those of you who like "black letter" law: Section 2. The judicial power shall extend to all cases, in law and equity, arising under this Constitution, the laws of the United States, and treaties made, or which shall be made, under their authority There ya go.
76 posted on 06/19/2006 8:36:27 AM PDT by Comstock1 (If it's a miracle, Colour Sergeant, it's a short chamber Boxer Henry point 45 caliber miracle.)
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To: MikefromOhio
From a poster who makes a living on FR mocking others about believing in CONSPIRACY THEORIES. Heal thyself.
77 posted on 06/19/2006 8:39:36 AM PDT by tertiary01 (Soviet style debating tactics invented tinfoiling the opposition.)
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To: Comstock1
Whoops, forgot the "in for a penny, in for a pound" html rules here. Let me reformat that one.

I'm not going to do any research on this--too many late nights back in school doing it for a degree I ultimately decided I didn't want. However, for those of you who like "black letter" law:

Section 2. The judicial power shall extend to all cases, in law and equity, arising under this Constitution, the laws of the United States, and treaties made, or which shall be made, under their authority...

There ya go.

78 posted on 06/19/2006 8:39:37 AM PDT by Comstock1 (If it's a miracle, Colour Sergeant, it's a short chamber Boxer Henry point 45 caliber miracle.)
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To: 1rudeboy

And getting a trilateral holiday is a problem. There's Canada Day, Cinco de Mayo and the Fourth of July. Most of us want Cinco de Mayo because it involved beating the French, but the Quebecois got annoyed.


79 posted on 06/19/2006 8:40:17 AM PDT by AmishDude (I am the King Nut.)
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To: Comstock1

More than one treaty has had provisions clipped by a court.

Exactly. Another conspiracy theory that doesn't hold water.
Considering today's combative politics I don't think one has to worry much about any conspiracy sneaking in while the citizens of the U.S. are sleeping.

No unconstitutional treaty is going to trump our Constitution without a war never before imagined in the history of politics.


80 posted on 06/19/2006 8:46:35 AM PDT by Joan Kerrey
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