[robertpaulsen]

"I'm confused...You admit the ONDCP numbers are bogus, yet you use those bogus numbers to measure drug war "success"."

No. I use the NSDUH (National Survey on Drug Use and Health) numbers. So does everybody.

But when KenH want to inflate the heroin and cocaine statistics to make a point, he switches to the ONDCP numbers. I don't think even he believes them, but hey, there they are! And they're right from the government! So he'll use them!

[mugs99]

No. I use the NSDUH (National Survey on Drug Use and Health) numbers. So does everybody.

ROTFLMAO!!!
Both NSDUH and ONDCP get their numbers from the same source...The RTI corporation, a government contractor!
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[Ken H]

I use the NSDUH (National Survey on Drug Use and Health) numbers. So does everybody.

Not the ONDCP:

"Cautious evaluation of this data is necessary because the NHSDA cannot accurately measure rare or stigmatized drug use, relying as it does on self-reporting and on people residing in households. In alternate research, the number of hardcore* users of heroin in 1998 was estimated to be 980,000,"

"Estimates of heroin use from the NHSDA are considered very conservative due to the probable underreporting and undercoverage of the population of heroin users." ________________________________________

Nor Drug Czar Barry McCaffrey:

"For example, numbers like heroin addiction. You can find numbers that go from 255,000 up to the one I'm currently using, 980,000, if I remember the last time we updated it, and those are all valid scientific studies."

paulsen:But when KenH want to inflate the heroin and cocaine statistics to make a point, he switches to the ONDCP numbers. I don't think even he believes them, but hey, there they are!

You are calling our Drug Warriors liars!