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Report: Insurgents captured soldiers
CNN.com ^ | 06/17/06 | CNN

Posted on 06/17/2006 8:22:15 PM PDT by MotleyGirl70

BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- Iraqi witnesses say they saw two U.S. soldiers who survived an attack at a checkpoint near Baghdad being led away by masked insurgents to a pair of cars, The New York Times is reporting in its Sunday edition.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: hostages; iraq; menchaca; mia; oif; soldiers; thomastucker; triangleofdeath; yusufiya
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To: operation clinton cleanup

We pray for the safe return of all our brave troops.


61 posted on 06/17/2006 9:28:06 PM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: jveritas
Before going any further, I also would like to thank you for all your hard work. It really is appreciated around here.

I have not surveyed AZ Republicans if that is what you mean. I have only talked to my friends and acquaintances, here and in a number of other US cities.

I do tend to knee jerk, that is true. I have flesh and blood treasure at stake in this war and it tends to skew one's emotions. It is not a good excuse, but the only one I can offer right now.

However, I also have eyes to see and ears to hear what is around me. I can see we are not winning the war at home. And we have lost the hearts and minds of the American people (I can read polls and I can talk to friends). You may be right about the Republican voters, but you will have to show me a poll to that effect to prove that point to me.

If we are expecting to win this war, we are going to have to win the war at home. Or bin-Laden will have been proven right once again when he said we simply don't have the stomach for war.

It is the responsibility of the administration to win that war at home... and so far, they are losing.

The army and the Iraqi government gave Bush some traction last week. This event with the soldiers being taking hostage (if that is indeed what happened) will undoubtedly be used by our enemies fellow travelers to undermined the war at home. I would expect to see something to counter it soon.

62 posted on 06/17/2006 9:29:37 PM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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To: FreedomCalls
That was a funny picture, but this story is not.

I keep telling myself if I EVER were in that situation, I would die before being taken alive.

I can't believe this has happened to our soldiers - someone in the chain needs to get reamed over losing two soldiers. Some stinkin' MF NCO or officer made a tactical error here, and these kids are paying the price.

Yes, I'm pissed off ...

63 posted on 06/17/2006 9:30:09 PM PDT by 11th_VA (UNITED 93 - Everything you need to know about Islam)
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To: Eagles6
Thank you Eagles6, just doing my little duty my fellow freeper. The great efforts and sacrifice are done by our brave troops on a daily basis. God bless our troops.
64 posted on 06/17/2006 9:30:16 PM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: jveritas

Prayers for our missing men and for freedom. Take care.


65 posted on 06/17/2006 9:35:03 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Dig deeper, more ammo.)
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To: jveritas
I also want to thank you again for your excellent independent interpretation of the Iraqi documents. The truth must be known!
66 posted on 06/17/2006 9:36:35 PM PDT by operation clinton cleanup
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To: MotleyGirl70
I don't know that I believe these guys any more than the ones in Haditha.

I pray they are lying, too.

Becki

67 posted on 06/17/2006 9:41:27 PM PDT by Becki (Superman wears Jack Bauer pajamas.)
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To: bnelson44
The media is winning an insignificant "how do FEEL about the" war. When it comes to winning the war at home the most important thing is that we are in power and we stay in power because as long as we are in power we will keep fighting and winning this war on terror in general and in the Iraqi theater in particular.

The Left and their media are doing all this treason of underming the war so that the democrats will win the elections and impeach Bush. However when people are going to vote they will not vote for the Party of Defeat, it never happened before and it will not happen now. The American people will not elect defeatist to power.

The war in Vietnam was vastly less popular than this Iraq war, and millions of people were often taken to the street to demonstrate against the war and our casualties were 20 times higher than in this Iraq war on terror but nothing close to this is happening in this war. Despite all this, the democrat candidates who advocated cut and run and defeat were crushed in the 1968 and 1972 presidential elections. The same happened to the democrats in 2004 and it will happen again in 2006.

68 posted on 06/17/2006 9:41:59 PM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: jveritas

Nixon won because he said he had a way out of Vietnam.


69 posted on 06/17/2006 9:45:42 PM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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To: bnelson44
If the majority of "real voters" are for cut and run and against the war the Senate would not have voted 91-6 to refuse cut and run or to set an deadline for withdrawal including most democrats. The same happen in the house 256-143 including 42 democrats who know that of they vote for cut and run from Iraq they are going to lose.
70 posted on 06/17/2006 9:45:43 PM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: jveritas

I didn't say they were for "cut and run" they are for "how do we get out". There is a difference. Talk to your fellow Republicans who are not Freepers. Let them talk.


71 posted on 06/17/2006 9:47:02 PM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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To: bnelson44
Well we stayed in Vietnam after 1968 for five more years and in 1972 the DEFEATIST and CUT AND RUN candidate was crushed by Nixon in 49 States. The American people will not put DEFEATISTS in power and I hope that you understand this point.
72 posted on 06/17/2006 9:48:15 PM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: jveritas

http://www.kurdmedia.com/articles.asp?id=12657
Independence for Kurdistan
June 17, 2006
Baqi Barzani

The domino effect of Montenegro?s independence referendum in May 2006 is omen of hope and optimism for our stateless 40-million Kurds. Kurdistan is estimated to be seventy times numerically superior to Montenegro.

Montenegro?s electorates opted for partitioning from Serbia only by 55.4 percent as compared to the staggeringly superlative 98.8 % approval rate in referendums held in our nation (South-Kurdistan).

Through free, fair and impartial plebiscite, the citizens of Montenegro could determine their political destiny. A basic and fundamental right acknowledged and enshrined by the universal declarations of human rights.

When it comes to the Kurds, the double standard of global powers - advocates of UN charter and civilizations are lamentable. Ideas of liberty that once became hallmark of French and American revolutions and modernized destiny of these lands and peoples are not applied to them by the champions of Western and American democracies.

Some ponder that the concept of an independent Kurdistan is a newphenomenon, and some even link it to New World Order, and some conspiracy theorists even assert that it was the strategy of British colonialism.

The concept of a New World Order emerged after the collapse of the Soviet Union, and the struggle for an independent Kurdistan holds a much more elongated anecdote. In other words the Kurdish struggle for independence is as old as its slavery and subjugation. This struggle has been subjected to many systoles and diastole in it?s drawn out course.

The creation of independent Kurdistan will not only fulfill the aspirations of Kurds but also be instrumental in initiating a new era of amity and harmony among many nations where Kurdistan will act as a bridge of faith and hope.

It has been the aspiration of very Kurd to observe an independent Kurdistan emerge. By nature every human being is biased towards freedom; and find insufferable to be enslaved or subjugated. People of Kurdistan are no poles apart. They also groove on freedom, democracy and prosperity.

The world and United Nation should come to the core and address the critical demand of the Kurdish people, the settlement of Kurdistan crisis.

Kurds because of their long sacrifices, subjugation and oppression under occupying forces require / justify a righteous, honorable and instantaneous solution. They are the true victims and object of the contemporary savage war/brutality inflicted on them.


73 posted on 06/17/2006 9:49:20 PM PDT by Lori675
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To: jveritas

http://www.kurdmedia.com/articles.asp?id=12657
Independence for Kurdistan
June 17, 2006
Baqi Barzani

The domino effect of Montenegro?s independence referendum in May 2006 is omen of hope and optimism for our stateless 40-million Kurds. Kurdistan is estimated to be seventy times numerically superior to Montenegro.

Montenegro?s electorates opted for partitioning from Serbia only by 55.4 percent as compared to the staggeringly superlative 98.8 % approval rate in referendums held in our nation (South-Kurdistan).

Through free, fair and impartial plebiscite, the citizens of Montenegro could determine their political destiny. A basic and fundamental right acknowledged and enshrined by the universal declarations of human rights.

When it comes to the Kurds, the double standard of global powers - advocates of UN charter and civilizations are lamentable. Ideas of liberty that once became hallmark of French and American revolutions and modernized destiny of these lands and peoples are not applied to them by the champions of Western and American democracies.

Some ponder that the concept of an independent Kurdistan is a newphenomenon, and some even link it to New World Order, and some conspiracy theorists even assert that it was the strategy of British colonialism.

The concept of a New World Order emerged after the collapse of the Soviet Union, and the struggle for an independent Kurdistan holds a much more elongated anecdote. In other words the Kurdish struggle for independence is as old as its slavery and subjugation. This struggle has been subjected to many systoles and diastole in it?s drawn out course.

The creation of independent Kurdistan will not only fulfill the aspirations of Kurds but also be instrumental in initiating a new era of amity and harmony among many nations where Kurdistan will act as a bridge of faith and hope.

It has been the aspiration of very Kurd to observe an independent Kurdistan emerge. By nature every human being is biased towards freedom; and find insufferable to be enslaved or subjugated. People of Kurdistan are no poles apart. They also groove on freedom, democracy and prosperity.

The world and United Nation should come to the core and address the critical demand of the Kurdish people, the settlement of Kurdistan crisis.

Kurds because of their long sacrifices, subjugation and oppression under occupying forces require / justify a righteous, honorable and instantaneous solution. They are the true victims and object of the contemporary savage war/brutality inflicted on them.


74 posted on 06/17/2006 9:49:23 PM PDT by Lori675
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To: bnelson44

I do and not a single one of them is saying that we are losing the war, and they understand very well what does it take to fight and win a war.


75 posted on 06/17/2006 9:49:53 PM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: jveritas

You said it well and that's the truth.


76 posted on 06/17/2006 9:55:36 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Dig deeper, more ammo.)
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God help these young men, and a pox on those that let only 3 of our troops man a checkpoint in that hellhole! Are we daft?


77 posted on 06/17/2006 9:56:38 PM PDT by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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To: jveritas

Hey, maybe I need to meet your friends :)

I'm afraid mine are losing heart. And so are their friends.


78 posted on 06/17/2006 9:57:56 PM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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To: MotleyGirl70
"We are using all available assets," Caldwell said. "We never stop looking for our service members until their status is definitively determined, and we continue to pray for their safe return."

As long as no precious mosques are harmed in the process.

79 posted on 06/17/2006 9:58:01 PM PDT by Captainpaintball (Congress is more afraid of nail guns and illegal aliens than law abiding American citizens)
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To: USMCPOP
and a pox on those that let only 3 of our troops man a checkpoint in that hellhole!

This one deserves an investigation - I'll bet they were staked out for a few weeks/days...

80 posted on 06/17/2006 9:58:44 PM PDT by 11th_VA (UNITED 93 - Everything you need to know about Islam)
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