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'He was the first and closest target'[Jihad attack in Maryland]
Balto Sun ^ | 17 jun 06 | Nick Shields and Josh Mitchell

Posted on 06/17/2006 5:02:14 PM PDT by white trash redneck

In what police described as a random attack, Paul Schrum, a 62-year-old medical supplies salesman from Pikesville, was shot dead while watching a movie at Loews Valley Center 9 in Owings Mills. About 20 minutes into the film, police said, the gunman stood, told everyone to get on the floor and fired four shots.
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The suspect is a 24-year-old man, a 2000 graduate of Mount Hebron High School in Howard County and a 2005 graduate of Loyola College, where he majored in biology. Mujtaba Rabbani Jabbar's family home is a house valued at more than $1 million in one of Baltimore County's most affluent neighborhoods.

According to charging documents, Jabbar told police that he had planned to kill someone for several months.

He has been charged with first-degree murder. He was being held without bail at the county detention center. A search of court records showed nothing more than traffic violations for Jabbar.

Jabbar's address is in Anton North, one of the most exclusive neighborhoods in Baltimore County, with million-dollar mansions hidden by trees and at the end of long, twisting driveways.

(Excerpt) Read more at baltimoresun.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Maryland; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: baltimore; baltimorecell; gwot; howardcounty; islam; jabbar; jihad; jihadinamerica; kosovo; michaelmoore; mujtabajabbar; muslimamericans; nonterroristattack; terrorattack; terrorism; waronterror; wot
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To: Mrs. Don-o

And freed this year.


81 posted on 06/17/2006 6:48:43 PM PDT by white trash redneck (Everything I needed to know about Islam I learned on 9-11-01.)
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To: edpc
"Your ignorance in this matter only fuels a fallacy."

And you come across like a member of the jury who bought the explanation from the psychologists who tried to explain Malvo's actions as being due to his fascination with the movie, The Matrix.

Islam had nothing to do with it?

Don't put me down because I am an Australian. Geography has nothing to do with this. The muslims are doing their best to convert our aboriginals and turn them against us. The indigenous people are considered to be useful idiots by islam...as are your coloured minority.

"Yes, Muhammad belonged to NOI and other militant Islamic groups. That, related to his crime, was incidental..."

LOL!

82 posted on 06/17/2006 6:55:17 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Read the bio THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free! Click Fred Nerks for link to my Page.)
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To: white trash redneck

Said the Ossifer, being ever soooo politically correct:
The shooting at the Owings Mills theater was, in the words of county police spokeswoman Sgt. Vickie Warehime, "completely random."

The corrected version is:
The shooting at the Owings Mills theater was, in the words of county police spokeswoman Sgt. Vickie Warehime, "completely MUSLIM."


83 posted on 06/17/2006 6:56:05 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon Liberty, it is essential to examine principles, - -)
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To: white trash redneck

What American people? You surely don't mean the RATs, characterized by Murtha who want us to cut and run every time we are attacked?


84 posted on 06/17/2006 7:01:28 PM PDT by Paulus Invictus
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To: white trash redneck

This is Maryland -- where virtually nobody can get a carry permit to protect himself or anyone else from such a killer. Maryland wants to confiscate all guns (see, Joseph Curran, former Attorney General and father-in-law of RAT Gubernatorial candidate Martin O'Malley). Maryland will not protecty its citizens but will not allow them to protect themselves.


85 posted on 06/17/2006 7:01:51 PM PDT by blau993
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To: JulieRNR21

#20 I agree with you.


86 posted on 06/17/2006 7:03:46 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) !)
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To: LibWhacker
I agree with you and with you all the way.

Their history gives them away. It's ugly and consistent. it's just repeating itself.

It's hard to take GWB seriously concerning his war on terror ... HE was an under graduate degree in HISTORY. He knows the real score here.
87 posted on 06/17/2006 7:05:49 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) !)
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To: LibWhacker
When will we get someone of national stature who stands up and says, "NO! Over my dead body, NO!???" Because we NEED such a leader.

Ross Douthat has an interesting post on why that will be so difficult.

An excerpt:

"... for roughly the last hundred years of American history an overlapping, interlocking series of elite classes has done a truly remarkable job of co-opting and controlling populist sentiment - and I'm skeptical that this will change that much in the new century. National politicians, precisely by virtue of being national figures, come under a tremendous amount of pressure to conform themselves to the elite culture and elite opinion, and they almost always buckle."

88 posted on 06/17/2006 7:12:11 PM PDT by white trash redneck (Everything I needed to know about Islam I learned on 9-11-01.)
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To: edpc
So you're saying that your proximity to the events in question somehow makes you an expert on the motivations of the killers? Is that about right?

L

89 posted on 06/17/2006 7:12:56 PM PDT by Lurker (When decadence pervades the corridors of power, depravity walks the side streets.)
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To: Fred Nerks
And you come across like a member of the jury who bought the explanation from the psychologists who tried to explain Malvo's actions as being due to his fascination with the movie, The Matrix.

Please, please point to anywhere in my postings where I mentioned anything like this lousy attempt at misdirection. You can't. Their motives were plain:

1) Shoot as many people as it takes to extort $10 million from the authorities.
2) Use that money in a bizzare plan to set up a nation of "pure blacks."
3) Kill Muhammad's ex-wife in the process of killing other innocents. This would give him sole custody and deflect suspicion away from him, especially since the police were looking for a white man.

The whole Islamic angle came later, much later after his capture. It was convenient and more fitting with the times. He was more willing to have people view him as an Islamic holy warrior, rather than the low-life conniving, low-rent criminal he actually was.

Don't put me down because I am an Australian.

If you think being called ignorant (or misinformed) is putting you down, that was not my intent. I am trying to explain to you the entire matter. Geography has a lot to do with it. I had more access to the details since there was wall to wall coverage and it happened in my backyard. You are just getting the broad picture through your sources. I'd be more inclined to think you'd have more details than I would on something that happened in your hometown. Aboriginal recruitment by al Qaeda has as much to do with the DC snipings as Islamic Holy War had to do with Muhammad's true motives: Absolutely nothing.

90 posted on 06/17/2006 7:14:40 PM PDT by edpc
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To: white trash redneck

Maybe when it happens to an American Idol contender.


91 posted on 06/17/2006 7:16:38 PM PDT by thoughtomator (A thread without a comment on immigration is not complete)
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To: Lurker

I am saying my insight and information in this matter far excels yours or Fred's.


92 posted on 06/17/2006 7:16:49 PM PDT by edpc
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To: Gunslingr3
Surprise...the shooter conveniently has a completely Arab name.
...and the man taking the bullet coincidently happened to be a Jew.
This murder is random only in the sense that the Islamist selected a random Jew.
Didn't this kinda thing happen at LAX several years ago? Islamist sleeper targets the El Al counter.
93 posted on 06/17/2006 7:18:48 PM PDT by ricks_place
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To: edpc

Nothing jihad like there...

Or here:

No mention of jihad here, either:

And here's another completely jihad free offering:

Yeppers, not a jihad to be found anywhere.

Only a NYT reporter or Chief Moose could fail to find any jihadi influence in there.

All images are courtesy of Michelle Malking and Jihad Watch. Link is here

Now who ya gonna believe. edpc or your lying eyes.

L

94 posted on 06/17/2006 7:23:28 PM PDT by Lurker (When decadence pervades the corridors of power, depravity walks the side streets.)
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To: ricks_place

I live in the Balto. suburbs.

Anton North, where the shooter is said to have lived, is in a primarily Jewish area. This is an affluent, newish development where most would have interior decorators. No wonder the neighbors noticed the ironing board in the window.

The movie theatre is in the same basic neighborhood, along the same corridor, and still predominantly Jewish.

It would have been much harder to choose a NON-Jew at random in this location.


95 posted on 06/17/2006 7:29:25 PM PDT by jaybee
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To: TET1968
According to charging documents, Jabbar told police that he had planned to kill someone for several months.

Thats a stretch TET
96 posted on 06/17/2006 7:33:22 PM PDT by MilspecRob (Most people don't act stupid, they really are.)
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To: white trash redneck

Of course no mention in the article of the mosque at which they worshiped.


97 posted on 06/17/2006 7:42:02 PM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: Diogenesis

I recall a couple of Pakastanis opened up on traffic waiting to enter CIA headquarters using automatic weapons several years ago. Before 9/11.


98 posted on 06/17/2006 7:47:35 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (NYT Headline: 'Protocols of the Learned Elders of CBS: Fake But Accurate, Experts Say.')
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To: ricks_place
Detonics:
Gender: Masculine
Usage: American 45 acp
Means" won't be performing Jihad within 50 meters of me"...
99 posted on 06/17/2006 7:50:53 PM PDT by Aut Pax Aut Bellum (When in doubt, empty your magazine...)
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To: river rat

Moderate muslim, one who has run out of ammunition.


100 posted on 06/17/2006 8:00:18 PM PDT by bordergal (uis)
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