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Oh, you think the media and their Democratic allies won't use this to whip up anti-war fervor even further than they already have and to recover from the bad weeks of good news they've had for our war efforts in Iraq??? THE ANTI-WAR CROWD CONTROLS THE MEDIA!!! Wake the hell up!! They will play this for everything it's worth.

But yeah, keep up the denial because you can't admit some commander screwed up unnessarily risking the lives of soldiers like this. Yes, it's a war and bad things happen and I accept that. I've accepted that for 3 years now and 2500 killed in being one of the most vocal proponents of the liberation effort in Iraq both of FR and elsewhere. I have stood by the militarily ENTIRELY through Abu Ghirab and Haditha. And I will contine to stand by them and the mission come what may. But this was just STUPID to post only 3 men at a checkpoint and leave them vulnerable to kidnapping. How is it I could see this coming and some commander somewhere couldn't?? We cannot be frivilous with the lives of our men and excuse it all by saying "Oh it's a war and bad things happen." Sorry, I accept that but I DO NOT ACCEPT playing fast and loose with their men's lives through stupid decision-making.

So again, don't scream at me because you can't accept reality. I take a back seat to no one in my support for the military and the liberation effort in Iraq. But when I see stupid I'm going to call it for what it is. And the bigger consideration is the possible terrible butchery of these men we are all soon likely to witness in our living rooms for weeks on end. But also is at stake is a total collapse in support for the war effort which will make it impossinle to carry on, and all at a time finally things were beginning to go our way again. Maybe you can remain blase about that, but I can't. This is a disaster in the making, perhaps the worst we've suffered in Iraq and all because someone wasn't thinking.

Now stop screaming at me like a ranting loon and pray your heart out we find these men.

You are a fool and you don't have an F'ing clue what you are talking about - Keep suggesting what you think you know and in several days your as$ will be shown to everyone (when all the facts come out).

You know nothing of operating in Iraq. You know nothing regarding how many men were originally at this checkpoint and what occurrences took place leading up to what happened.

You cry and whine the sky is falling when it most certainly isn't. What we have accomplished in Iraq (and Stan) is utterly historic. Tragic losses of soldiers lives (if that is what this situation ends up to be) will have no impact on the outcome of this WOT...nor will it change the resolve of the American public.

I don't care what the MSM does - It cannot change the reality of our success. It could not change the election outcome of 2000, 2002 or 2004. The anti-war crowd you speak of is pathetic...and pathetically weak. They have no numbers.

And don't tell me you stood by our military during Abu Ghirab (big of you) and or Haditha (when you don't even know all the facts of that situation yet)...again, very big of you.

My time is too valuable to waste on you - Keep screaming the sky is falling and keep touting your own military armchair intellect regarding a situation in which you know absolutely nothing about.

Glad your weak-kneed as$ has been state side throughout this war.

According to the DOD report, the checkpoint where the one guard was killed, God rest his soul, and the other two were kidnapped was close enough for other troops who responded to hear the gunfire and commotion, so it's not as though they were situated out in a desolate spot as you seem to imply.

Regardless of the facts as we have them at present, it's senseless to sit here at home just speculating and bickering. The energy this consumes would be better spent in prayer for the safe return of our two missing soldiers. There'll be plenty of time to dissect and bicker about what happened when they are found and return to their loved ones and the monsters who have them are punished and on the receiving end of what they deserve.